Daily reminder...

Hemulen Magi··62 votes·3,450 views

That Yorick exists...

It's sad that this is necessary, but it is.

If every person who owns Yorick does their part and plays him just one game per day, we might be able to get his pick rate to 2% by the end of the month. Please, Yorick has had enough disappointment in his dreary existence. If you don't own Yorick, show you care with a one-time donation of 4800 IP to the adopt-a-ghoul fund today. You can make a difference.

68 Comments

Tokogawaruf20 votes

As a Tier 5 Yorick Player, this touchs my Heart. more preciesly, my item 3110 .

Hemulen Magi12 votes

Yorick: Your post brought a item 3070 to my eye. When life gives you lemons, you make lemonade.
When life gives you item 3070 make item 3004.

Painted Celt1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Hemulen Magi,realm=NA,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=goncQz3A,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2016-03-03T01:18:40.267+0000) When life gives you item 3070 make item 3004.

Karthus: When life gives you item 3070, make item 3003 !

XeroKimo1 votes

Veigar - When life gives you a item 3070 , you make item 3003 item 3003 item 3003 item 3003 item 3003 item 3003 ......... oh wait I'm 4 years late

Awkward Couch4 votes

When life gives you lemons, don't make lemonade. Make life take the lemons back! Get mad! I don't want your damn lemons, what the hell am I supposed to do with these? Demand to see life's manager! Make life rue the day it thought it could give Cave Johnson lemons! Do you know who I am? I'm the man who's gonna burn your house down! With the lemons! I'm gonna get my engineers to invent a combustible lemon that burns your house down!

therealdragon5 votes

Sorry. Saving that ip for Aurelian Sol.

Odyssey853 votes

I've been thinking of buying him. Is he in a good spot right now? And is he as oppressive a top-laner as I've heard/seen? I like play those champs that Riot forgets about until they can be changed, like Taric or Urgot

Clockwork Mouse2 votes

He is pretty good, but you have to manage his mana really well. CS with your autos as much as you can, take some mana ruies, and if you are really having trouble, build a tear.

He can beat most people 1v1 thanks to his ghouls and passive, real good in team fights. His weakest phase is laning. Just survive that and you can carry.

His Ult is also really strong. If you time it right you cna have your carry come back to life for a short time and turn a teamfight around, or even ult your carry and have a ghost of him fighting with 75% AD, but 100% Attack speed, HP, and other stats.

Hemulen Magi3 votes

Yep, managing mana while getting his mana item(s) is really key for lane Yorick. I like to take him in the jungle sometimes just so that I can use blue buff to overcome that weakness. He is a really awesome, flexible, and fun champion, but the learning curve on managing his resources and ultimate can be pretty high.

Hemulen Magi5 votes

He has an okay laning phase, but I wouldn't describe it as oppressive. His early mana requirements prevent him from bullying during most of laning, since he usually can't invest in as much combat stats as his opponent. However, a lot of players lane against Yorick so rarely that they don't understand how to deal with his ghouls at all. So instead of either A) removing the ghoul aggro by stepping into a bush, B) killing the ghoul, or C) building some sustain and tankiness then ignoring the ghouls, they'll choose D) running around the lane like a headless chicken and losing a lot of CS...

I feel like top lane Yorick's power pattern is that he is strong up until his first recall (which tends to be early because he goes OOM), then he's usually mediocre (not exactly bad) for the rest of laning until he finishes his mana items, then he starts ramping back up and bringing his ult utility to teamfights or splitpushing.

If you are experienced with Yorick's ult and have a good carry on your team to use it on, then he is extremely useful after laning. Yorick really does best lategame, which is reflected in his winrate peaking around 40 minute game duration. His ultimate is great for supporting his teammates and scales with the carries on his team. I love Yorick because lategame he transitions into the most flexible, least selfish power, and most team supportive/utility juggernaut, which really fits my playstyle. I feel like he's best played as a sort of bodyguard for your carries, smashing the head of anyone who gets too close while diving your ally, and temporarily reviving your ally if he/she gets bursted down.

I strongly recommend you give Yorick a try. He has been my favorite champion purchase in all of the years I have played. I thought he was weak when I first bought him, but then I learned to manage his mana early on and all of the cool things I could do with his ultimate. I haven't put him down since. I love him top, jungle, and even support.

Yorick is so flexible and fun. I am doing my ranked promos for this season right now, and I have won 5/6 games so far as Yorick support. Back when I was getting level 30 on this account, I went on a crazy win streak as jg Yorick where my whole match history was wins as far back as it would show... That was even before Yorick jg started catching on and was played in the LCS... Wait a sec... I even have some screenshots around somewhere...

http://i.imgur.com/4Nnbs8g.png http://i.imgur.com/DV3gd7l.png

Envy Sin2 votes

B) killing the ghoul

so hard to click their tiny tiny clickboxs basic minons will prevent this one, let alone champions

Count Zubat2 votes

Attack move, nothing else to say.

aLawfulFalafel1 votes

shhh stop it XD stop telling them

aLawfulFalafel1 votes

no no no you are telling him too much XD

BIAKaboose2 votes

Aight, gonna be throwing some knowledge around for a second about my man Yorick.

First off, 0/12/18 is insane, grab yourself Grasp of the Undying along with ALL the hp regen based masteries, and make sure you get both dangerous game and I think it's called Meditation (the %missing mana regen one). Once you're in game start sapphire crystal or corrupting potion if you feel really cheesy, and start Omen of Famine.

Omen of Famine is everything, it's your poke, your sustain, max it first in every situation and if you're missing more than like 80HP find your laner, drop it on him. Ghoul autos allow you to have GotU stacked up forever and since ghouls prioritize champions they won't just hard shove the lane either, so if your opponent thinks they want to man fight you drop E and punch them in the face for that HP drain based on your HP along with your ghoul healing you up.

Skill order is R>E>Q>W, W gives a heavier slow with rank but once I reach the section on builds you'll understand why I 1 point wonder it these days. Q resets your auto attacks, make sure you get a normal hit in before you Q, it doesn't add tons of damage, but every little bit counts. You aren't going to have the following;

  1. Flashy plays, seriously, you do nothing with style or grace, you just get shit done
  2. Mobility, You're slow as hell, and your only speed boost requires you to punch something in the face with a digging tool
  3. Escapes, You don't get them, but neither does the enemy without a plethora of dashes i.e. Riven
  4. Fucks, You don't give them, not even the one, if you aren't burying your opponent alive, you're doing it wrong
  5. Burst damage. I can't stress this enough, Yorick has approximately 600 damage in a full rotation without building crazy amounts of AD, you don't just chunk people, use that to your advantage and push long engages to their limit because when people get chunked they bail, sustained damage doesn't phase people until they die

Onto the full on playstyle portion of today's scheduled program. As I've said, max E, but do not under any circumstance neglect any of your abilities when it comes to point allotment, your passive gives you 5% bonus damage and 5% bonus damage reduction for every single extra unit you have on the field. If your opponent is aggresive towards you then be aggresive right back, short of a Mundo, Olaf, or Garen you out heal them by a mile, just don't get too cocky and waste too much, discretion is the better part of valor. If your opponent engages on you post level 3, drop E on them, auto, Q, auto, and when they start to back off drop W to keep them within reach, DO NOT drop W immediately unless you need to run away. Post 6 the world is one giant mass grave to you, find anyone willing to go toe to toe with you and smash them into the ground, if they get too close throw everything at them, when they turn around to fight you ult yourself for the extra resistances and damage and make it beat the crap out of them, at rank one it gets half your HP, and 45% of your damage, by then you should at least have tear if not a full manamune, keep spamming them down until dead. Late game you get a second AD carry for free, or if someone on your team is squishy as hell and being focused, they will still be able to kill people after they get focused down because you give them a second health bar for 10 seconds, and don't worry, sub-plat nobody even knows who Yorick is so there is about a 0.5% chance that anyone even realizes what your ult does/looks like, just make sure you tell your team that if they get a ghost of themselves to go absolutely ape shit ham.

Build So Yorick has some interesting stuff in his build path, for starters Manamune is the most core item you will ever buy, seriously, you need that sweet sweet mana to keep finding bodies to throw at the enemy. Next up we got resistances, Sunfire Cape, Frozen Heart, Spirit Visage, this is your unholy trinity of bullshit. Sunfire keeps Grasp of the Undying stacking so long as any neutral or enemy unit is vaguely close to you and helps you push lanes, if your opponent is AD, get this as soon as you can after tear/manamune. If your laner is AP, nothing is funnier than rushing Spirit Visage and laughing maniacally as they flail at you attempting to do damage, your E healing ge ts amped, your Grasp healing gets amped, and they can barely scratch you in the first place. Frozen Heart goes well with manamune since it gives you mana, it also gives CDR for more spam and the attack speed slow helps your ghouls not get gibbed as easily. From there you have some situationals, and those are getting their own split off section.

A few items that Yorick can use fantastically well are Rylais Crystal Scepter, Duskblade Of Drakthar, Titanic Hydra, Iceborn Gauntlet, and Black Cleaver. Rylais gives every ghoul the same slow as your Omen of Pestilence (W) on hit, great for chasing people down and keeping them locked down for your team. Duskblade can be applied twice in a more damage centered build so long as you ult before you auto an enemy and Duskblade is not cooling down. Titanic Hydra gives you a lot of damage if you build more HP items, and your ult ghost gets the passive effect as well. Iceborn is more mana for Manamune, as well as the slow field and AoE damage to help clear waves and keep enemies in reach. Last but not least Black Cleaver... Black Cleaver is insane on Yorick in the right situation, and the right situation only. If your ADC is getting fed, or if you are getting fed, or if you have anyone who is doing somewhat well and is AD get cleaver. Ghouls proc the cleaver effect because it is counted as your damage, speeding you up and shredding their armor in the process, W lets you keep them in range to be hit by other ghouls and lets you close the gap to keep whacking them with your shovel. If you have both Rylais and Cleaver nobody runs, they're permanently slowed by 20% and you have the movement speed buff from Cleaver at all times, lead the charge and if someone steps out of line you crush them under a wave of corpses.

Now get out there on the Fields of Justice and channel your inner gay cowboy, because everybody knows, Yorick digs Graves .

Hemulen Magi1 votes

Nice top lane guide. My preferred builds for top, jg, and support are usually something like: Top (mana + tanky bruiser/juggernaut): item 3111 item 3004 item 3025 item 3742 item 3071 item 3512 Jungle (build more offense + mobility): item 3009 item 1400 item 3742 item 3748 item 3078 item 3022 Support (focus on utility + tankiness): item 3111 item 2303 item 3004 item 3512 item 3110 item 3742

When I need more magic resistance, I build item 3065/item 3156 or hold onto the item 1057 for item 3512 early.

BIAKaboose1 votes

Never tried Yorick support actually, sounds bitchy. Jungle Yorick is a nightmare though, I've had Shacos invade me before while doing it (I sort of main Shaco so I know what he can do, so I guess that helps) and I just dropped all 3 ghouls on him getting the always nice 3 auto combo on him and killed him because he used to Deceive to engage and, like all Shaco players in the jungle, he didn't have Flash.

Odyssey851 votes

Damn, now after reading all this and everyone else's comments on how to play him (I really gotta try this jg and support Yorick, sounds hilarious) I guess I gotta put getting Lulu in order to get this mad gravedigger before he's reworked, so I will remember Yorick Mori. Btw great pun dude

BIAKaboose1 votes

Oh he's a ton of fun once you get his kit down and get some practice, just avoid Nunu lanes like the Plague, you use E on him to heal and he just eats it and gains more HP than you dealt damage.

aLawfulFalafel1 votes

no no NO this must stop facing a yorick in lane is scarier than an enemy shaco jungle, especially to noobs, stop telling people our secrets

thanks obama

BIAKaboose2 votes

Hey man, people asked, I delivered, don't hate the player, hate the game that lets the player overrun the world with an army of the undead and make crappy puns the whole time.

(Edit) Also I'm a mastery 5 Shaco who is currently in Bronze and laughing my ass off because nobody knows to be afraid of me, am I going to hell?

aLawfulFalafel1 votes

PLUS ONE XD

i would upvote this twice if only i could lmao

3TWarrior1 votes

simply put, he makes the first few levels hell for his opponent and then he literally can do nothing the rest of the game as their tank out-trades his sustain

he becomes a walking ult

Hemulen Magi1 votes

Nah. A good Yorick player never falls off hard lategame. His Q + W + E has about the same amount of damage scaling as Darius's Q + W + E and is very similar overall. He doesn't have Darius's snowballing because he lacks the midgame kill potential Darius has from his ult, but Yorick definitely has enough damage to be a major deterrent against standing anywhere near him. With a charged item 3042 scaling with the mana on item 3025 and the help of his ghouls/revenant, Yorick has plenty of lategame damage to outduel plenty of champions.

Ictus1 votes

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Nah. A good Yorick player never falls off hard lategame. His Q + W + E has about the same amount of damage scaling as Darius's Q + W + E and is very similar overall. He doesn't have Darius's snowballing because he lacks the midgame kill potential Darius has from his ult, but Yorick definitely has enough damage to be a major deterrent against standing anywhere near him. With a charged item 3042 scaling with the mana on item 3025 and the help of his ghouls/revenant, Yorick has plenty of lategame damage to outduel plenty of champions.

sure he has damage, but he has no reliable way to get in position to actually do his damage. and who cares about dueling late game? you should almost never be 1v1ing by that point.

Clockwork Mouse3 votes

Dampe the grave keeper cosplay. What are some thing i can say in all chat?

Hemulen Magi5 votes

My favorite Yorick quotes are: "Death is the gift I offer." "Who requires my services?" "There is only one destination." "The last breath is sweetest." "Answers lie beneath the dirt." "Embrace the inevitable." "Life... Slips away..." "Another claimed for the Shadow Isles." "Join me in eternity." "I think I might know a relative of yours. No hair, sagging flesh, always going on about brains... Ring any bells?"

And of course there is is best known quote: "You will remember Yorick Mori." (Should be his joke, since no one ever does.)

And on Twisted Treeline one of the altars references Hamlet, "Alas, poor Yorick."

I know all of his quotes by the way. = )

If you want a Dampe quote, how about "I'm not stinky! I take a bath at least once a month."?

Clockwork Mouse2 votes

Saying his quoats might be fun:)

Some zelda stuff will also be said "Come on my gravedigging tour!"

Sahn Uzal1 votes

Come on man... ''You will remember Yorick Mori'' is too good and too obvious. summoner 31

Hemulen Magi1 votes

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Come on man... ''You will remember Yorick Mori'' is too good and too obvious. summoner 31

Actually, I did mention that one. = P

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And of course there is is best known quote: "You will remember Yorick Mori." (Should be his joke, since no one ever does.)

Sahn Uzal1 votes

... .... ..... ..... ...... ....... ........ Best LeeSin cosplay EUW Also, it should become his joke after the rework tbh summoner 31

doombotMECHA2 votes

taunt. "you forgot me. let me help you remember."

Sahn Uzal1 votes

Yorick should get an on-death effect for whenever he kills the guy. He can burry the corps and write ''You shall remember me'' on the graves summoner 31

aLawfulFalafel1 votes

dont you mean, on the Graves ?

Sahn Uzal2 votes

I realised I wrote that, and I was considering making that joke myself when I posted taht, lol summoner 31

aLawfulFalafel1 votes

haha thanks for leaving the obvious "joke" for me, i love bad jokes lol

Sahn Uzal2 votes

Tips fedora, and I love making them, enjoy them good sir :3 summoner 31

TheRioluKid3 votes

I'm sure his play rate would increase if they released the cat lady yorick skin.

UNSC2 votes

I love yorick (specifically jungle :^)) although im glad he's getting a rework. Not really much interaction to his kit beside ghoul spam :(

Sahn Uzal2 votes

Yorick counters Fiora

NOW WATCH HIS PLAYRATE GROW! summoner 31

Ictus2 votes

please dont convince ppl to play yorick. he is garbage tier and i would prefer him not to be on my team thanks.

Clockwork Mouse1 votes

Played as him twice this week and seen one guy play him on the enemy team. Seen more of him then Galio

Envy Sin2 votes

he's the new karma.

look at her old kit/playrate/free rotation

he's almost never seen after his first set of real nerfs much like karma, so rework =(

SirShaggy1 votes

Uhhh, no. Yorick's kit is toxic to play against. That's why they haven't messed with him and are going to rework him. He needs some work.

Old Karma on the other hand, did not. Maybe some slight changes in functionality on her tether but that's about it.

Envy Sin1 votes

Lel, Did you ever play against old karma?

Let's say you poke her down to 10% then go in for the kill. She will

  1. Shield herself for about 80% of her hp bar.
  2. damage you for about 60% of your hp bar. While at the same time healing herself about 30%
  3. Drop a tether and wait for CD's and laugh when you die.

Old karma was OP as shit, Toxic as shit, Just nobody knew who she was.

SirShaggy1 votes

Not much but she was my main. If you're playing a champ that could poke her down to 10% then you definitely could force her under tower or out of lane and then roam. Karma was hard to finish off, sure, but she didn't have any insane burst or range and had to rely on the enemy making a mistake, not understanding her kit, and over committing to do anything like what you just said. Plus her abilities were naturally weaker because they needed 6 points each to be maxed and did situational damage (shield-bombs using ult charge, having to get the tether to run through an enemy). She was anti-carry in that she could prevent her lane from getting kills on herself by playing defensive, but was still fair because of her shortcomings (lack of range, burst damage, hard cc, and being mantra-reliance). Kind of like Lulu right now but not nearly as overloaded with cc. Karma's problem was a thematic one, not because of toxicity.

Yorick on the other hand just point and clicks his ghouls onto the enemy laner until he's oom. That's pretty much the entirety of his playstyle in laning phase. Riot still hasn't fixed the problem with targeting his ghouls. You win on Yorick by not interacting with your lane opponent and just sending out your ghouls to chase them around and poke them out until you can straight up 1v2 them and their jungler. There's little to no counterplay so it's not interactive or interesting for the lane opponent or the yorick player, unless you're one of those people that really enjoy killing ants with a magnifying glass. It's anti-fun. He's got a good concept and the potential is there, but his kit needs a healthier playstyle before he can be receiving any buffs.

Envy Sin1 votes

I'll address your points as best i can though the wall of text.

  1. She had burst, She just had to be low hp to really pump out damage. Which in the current meta of talons zeds and so on would be godly. (Her ap is higher the lower HP she has)

  2. Nobody really understood her kit, This is why she got reworked in OVER A YEAR she was not put on free week once. Not a single player got to try her before buying meaning not many people did. (i was one of few)

  3. I don't know about many other karma players but i LOVED the 6 points system. (that's just me but hey it was unique so it got removed)

  4. She wasn't long range but she didn't need to be, People would poke her down then over commit ALL THE TIME, They didn't understand that the lower she was the more damage/heal/shield she could get.

The few good karmas i faced/played with (i think maybe 1-2) practically raped the other laner.

Not saying yoricks kit isn't toxic (because it is) what i'm saying is he isn't seen enough for people to know how to beat him hence the "ZOMG YORICK OP PLS NERF"

when really he can be beat. Much like old karma people didn't know what to expect/what to do. That was the only point i was making lol. Which is true

Yorick has not seen a free week in a long while, Yorick is underplayed/undervalued (honestly atm he's still pretty damn strong) and is going to get a rework because of it. Not because he needs it but because his sales are low.

TLDR: Yoricks rework has nothing to do with how toxic his kit is, It's the fact that Riot can make money (increase his sales, Just like karma) with a rework.

SirShaggy1 votes

My bad. I tend to get too wrapped up in thought to format.

  1. She had to be low HP and have mantra stacks to really do any sort of burst combo. Seems fair to me. Plus a lot of people built her offtank since she was such a supportive utility-mage.

  2. Agreed. But now that League has champs like Bard, Yasuo, Kindred, Tahm Kench, and other champions that require teamplay as part of their kit there's really no excuse for the changes in her kit's functionality.

  3. I would have enjoyed it if it was balanced around her abilities being stronger at 6 points, but it wasn't. Her abilites were innately weaker because she had to dump another level into each of them to put them on par with everyone else's abilities.

  4. That's not a problem with Karma herself but with people's lack of understanding her kit. She had the lowest playrate for a looong time and Riot never addressed her. She had the inherent weakness of having low range and mediocre poke when she was healthy but had plenty of safety and turn-around potential to compensate.

I just don't see how old Karma was OP as shit or toxic. I think she had a very unique and interesting playstyle that both her and her lane opponent had to play around. She wasn't oppressive in lane, but a good Karma could stall out a bad matchup and hope her team either outscaled later with her teamfight utility or hope the enemy laner gets cocky and over commits without considering her Mantra and passive. Kind of like a Malphite or Lulu.

Yorick's playstyle is toxic because it lacks the depth and playmaking of old Karma. Karma could shut down a lane from getting kills by playing safe under tower, but Yorick shuts down a lane by spamming w on any enemy champ who gets in range to farm. It's not that people don't know how to play against him, it's that he's not a fun to lane against. He doesn't give his enemy laner opportunities for meaningful gameplay decisions. Kind of like a Teemo, except even more irritating.

TLDR: Yorick's rework has everything to do with how bland and toxic his kit is. You really shouldn't compare it to old Karma's.

Envy Sin1 votes

If you read over it again i'm sure you'll notice i didn't say karma was toxic i pointed out the real reason for the rework with yorick which karma shared.

SirShaggy1 votes

"Old karma was OP as shit, Toxic as shit, Just nobody knew who she was."

Bruh.

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