PSA: The Tank Meta

The tank meta. You want to know what the counter to the "Tank meta" is?

Lord Dominiks Revenge, Blade of the ruined King, any additional pen, Life steal, ranged, true damage, %HP true damage, Fiora, Vayne, Kogma. Tanks, actual tanks, not shit like "Tank Ekko" have a shit load of counterplay to them, and sb do the items they build. consider, their primary stats <armor and MR> are the only stats that become less efficient with additional purchase, frankly, they are the only class that depends on a stat of diminishing returns. AP and AD do not become less effective the more you purchase. Armor and magic resist do. <we cap at around 75% damage reduction before pen items, %hp damage, true damage ect>

If you want tank itemization to be seen as broken, you have to look at the champions that are "breaking" said itemization.

My two favorite examples are shyvana and Ekko.

Both have incredibly high damage in their kits, as both have access to %hp damage in their kits, on hits in their kits, and superb itemization these last few patches.

Lets tackle Shyvana first. As a magnificent dragon lady, she has a %HP damage modifier through her E, and a double proc on that from her Q all the while burning your health down with Burnout. these by themselves are not an issue, these in conjunction with devourer and titanic hydra is a nightmare, because she all of a sudden is tanky and blasts out your carries. this is not fun for your carries, nor should you have a shy on your team, would it be fun for theirs, that being said counter play does exist, in that her only gap closer puts her in generally terrible position and she can be kited. Hard CC boys.

Now lets look at Ekko.

Ekko has High base damage, Ekko has %hp damage, Ekko has a slow on the 3 hit proc that includes spells, Ekko has a speed up on to of that passive application, He has a soft or hard CC in his W, and a great escape or burst combo with his Ult. the reason "Tank Itemization" is broken on this champion is because his kit allows him to build pure defenses and still have an exceptional damage output, you cannot run, you cannot kite. this is intrinsic to his kit. not to tank items. tank items allow him to do something that low base damages and high scaling would fix in about 3 minutes, simply put until his base damages get reduced and either the slow or speed up from his passive get removed as well as reducing the overall %hp damage values in his kit. I know that sounds like gutting, but it forces him to build utility mage assassin, and not utility mage assassin tank carry.

let me reiterate. tanks who do not have the mobility or constant application of short CC slows are not broken with their items, frankly they barely hold on in usefulness, and in fact are somewhere around the concept of "What if a support had gold" they are easily countered because by their very nature they are slow kitable, cc machines that have to burn their entire kits to hold you down for around 3 seconds, and that's if everything goes down flawlessly. They are easily taken down through kiting and the use of the items adc's and Melee carries were specifically given to counter tanky champions, the black cleaver, the blade of the ruined king, the lord dominiks revenge, and on top of that the use of steraks so a tank doesn't even really burst for balls vs life steal that a carry goes for anyways.

Its champions that abuse utility and damage centrist kits that appear to break tank items, because they can abuse their kit until they die. ever seen a Sion fight a Volibear while both are full tank? nothing happens, for like 5 minutes, try a volibear vs a tank ekko, ekko wins in about 15 seconds.

Im copying this to make another thread because the tank meta is a myth. what we have are exploitative kits being revealed to do exploitative things.