I now understand what the fuss is about. that stuff be crazy effective.
points against me: Skarner top. Smite start. Against an early game - lv 6 burst champion.
Solution: Redsmite-> Cinderhulk->Trinity.
The game was over.
Cinderhulk aside, being able to choose either, a mini-all at once ignite and slow via chilling, or a mildly dps'ing 20% dps reduction Exhaust is wonderful.
Thoughts?
RiotRiot Baconhawk12 votesMy thought is: I'mma try dis next game.
Celio Hogane HD5 votesis like OH GOD SMITE CAN WORK OUTSIDE JUNGLE
RIOT PLS THIS IS NOT META, CHANGE IT.
Some times people is just dumb.
Jaygo413 votes[{quoted}](name=Celio Hogane HD,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=erb5VQQK,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2015-04-28T00:22:22.444+0000)
is like OH GOD SMITE CAN WORK OUTSIDE JUNGLE
RIOT PLS THIS IS NOT META, CHANGE IT.
Some times people is just dumb.
there's a big difference between "strategic diversity" and just plain dumb
part of the reason people see sabrehulk as an issue is because it makes some champions just far too dominant to deal with. shyvana can easily run at any melee with sabre in lane and screw them up and her ult is on a low enough cooldown to use as an escape.
in addition, the multiplying health makes it not disastrous for shyvana to get caught, as a good portion of the time she has too much health already. shyvana is the main offender with this item combo, but there are a number that produce a similar effect.
i still to this day think that smiting champs is honestly a really dumb idea, it's just too "point and click item advantagey."
"oh i can win this, o shit they have a skirmishers sabre." like wot? cmon. it should be champions deciding fights not these silly items.
1 person on each team should have smite. it's pretty much that simple
Shinjusuke1 votesIt's because people are morons. Particularly when the Dunning Kruger effect applies, and then it's morons with a lack of game knowledge understanding 1/1,000th of the problem and thinking they know what they're talking about.
There's a difference between a shift in the meta and an outright gamebreaking situation.
SabreHulk isn't a meta shift. SabreHulk is outright overpowered. It's the same situation as SabreDevourer back when the smite changes first went through in 4.20. There was no shift in the meta from WW seeing play again because his R was literally an autokill post-6, he was just overpowered as fuck and abusing the fact he was overpowered as fuck. This is the same thing.
Taking a different summoner spell to gain access to an overpowered item and overpowered new "active" doesn't mean the meta has changed. It's literally just a broken item granting way too much for way too little, and people are abusing it. Just like they would any other time an item is overpowered. The fact that top laners (and supports, in a few rare cases) are taking smite instead of something else doesn't make it a meta change and "LOL PPL R SCARED OF META CHANGES" is not why people are protesting it (and if you think so, kindly see yourself out of the forums, you don't have a fucking clue what you're talking about).
DropFill3 votes[{quoted}](name=Celio Hogane HD,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=erb5VQQK,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2015-04-28T00:22:22.444+0000)
is like OH GOD SMITE CAN WORK OUTSIDE JUNGLE
RIOT PLS THIS IS NOT META, CHANGE IT.
Some times people is just dumb.
Sorry, but smite top kills lane interaction and put champions that can't use smite top totally out of the roster. Except a few that are tanky-utility ones.
LilxPaprika1 votesNice to see skarner top Just made me realize how much this game needed a slow sunfirecape-ish item. Everyone kept rushing cutlass for the slow active (and of course for the sustain and the fact that it builds into botrk). Now that bruisers don't have a monopoly on single target active slows tanks are showing up big. Granted having a mini exhaust/garen w equivalent up every 40 seconds is nice too.
Panwar1 votesI was waiting for smite skarner top. It seems obvious after Shy and Hec, Voli as well.
junglerboy161 votesProbably the best way to do Skarner atm, since he usually needs more gold than most junglers, but also works great at counterjungling when ahead. Being top gives him the gold he needs to succeed very easily (he's functionally a tanky version of hecarim, just with less front loaded burst).
Grimmrock1 votesso, not to beat a dead horse, but im not arguing for over-powered or just meta shift.
The reason I liked it? because sunfire feels really really really under-powered in comparison to cinder, and skirmishers is litterally an exhaust that I get to choose after 3 minutes.
its the situation of "Do I need exhaust power to survive against burst" (this was blind pick by the way) or do I need an escape/upfront damage/chase tool (chilling)