Just give me one more patch cycle
please
don't do it
seriously bruisers and assassins, along with mages have all had to go entire fucking seasons without being relevant
Adcs can go two patches without being the special snowflakes, I'm sick of them, i don't find them cool, it's just "Can i 1shot this guy before he can see me and 1shot me from half a lane away?"
ModWulf Helhammer8 votesseriously bruisers and assassins, along with mages have all had to go entire fucking seasons without being relevant
Why do people blatantly lie?
If you want balance, then that means even classes you don't like have to be proficient enough to do their job.
Hexs Fortune7 votes[{quoted}](name= Król Wilk Sam,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=q1gnb0Vx,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-06-21T02:39:27.667+0000)
Why do people blatantly lie?
If you want balance, then that means even classes you don't like have to be proficient enough to do their job.
Whats worse is others start believing the lies and before you know it you get " I quit " posts where 3/4 of their reasons for quitting aren't actually happening.
Hammermancer2 votes[{quoted}](name= Król Wilk Sam,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=q1gnb0Vx,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-06-21T02:39:27.667+0000)
Why do people blatantly lie?
If you want balance, then that means even classes you don't like have to be proficient enough to do their job.
adcs as far as I can tell have always had the core job on the team to cry about the support taking 1cs with the side of his w while poking
adcs hold the important job of bitching at and demeaning their entire team, which they can still do fine
ZephyrDrake4 votes[{quoted}](name=T3H UB3RN07,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=q1gnb0Vx,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2018-06-21T03:23:33.120+0000)
adcs as far as I can tell have always had the core job on the team to cry about the support taking 1cs with the side of his w while poking
adcs hold the important job of bitching at and demeaning their entire team, which they can still do fine
You mean how every single lane holds the job of bitching and whining about junglers not ganking and/or taking some CS after they gank while also bitching and whining about them being too influential in the early game while still bitching and whining about every little thing that happens to the jungle?
Or how bruiser mains have the job of "I won't stop crying till my champion can 1v5 everything" and mages the job of complaining about every single change that isn't a buff to them calling it a nerf to them even if the effects of the change barely affects them if at all?
kaironen7 votesAdcs feel bad to play right now. When everyone can 1 shot you while it takes you a longer time to scale up, it makes it very hard to play that role. Also, with all the base stat nerfs, adcs are even weaker early game. Why play an adc when you can simply just play a bruiser or a cheesy type of mage lane and completely demolish the lane at a point of no return?
Also, you are over rating adcs before the huge nerf. They were slightly op, but they were no where near completely broken. Adcs being mandator doesn't = adcs being broken.
Hammermancer2 votesno dude for an entire year adcs were entirely overbearingly broken
and i don't view bruisers and mages in bot lane as trolling, i view it as the rest of the roster getting to play in the duo lane instead of the premadonna kogmaw players who think the entire team should be dedicated to defending and buffing them while they right click
I Feed As Yasuoo2 votesAdcs feel bad to play right now. When everyone can 1 shot you while it takes you a longer time to scale up, it makes it very hard to play that role. Also, with all the base stat nerfs, adcs are even weaker early game. Why play an adc when you can simply just play a bruiser or a cheesy type of mage lane and completely demolish the lane at a point of no return?
Although you have a point, i mean ADCs shouldnt get buffed or anything (until another broken assassin comes out) ADCs can build specific items to survive and not get one shot. Like building a Tabi or Mercury for boots to help you out for surviving. In addition you have Stopwatch which can make you get GA or Zhonya. And some ADCs have been getting black clever for shred and tankyness. thats what i think :^)
kaironen4 votesImo, adcs should either get a slight buff on their armor or indirectly with gold cost/components on items. However, the issue with adcs also comes from indirect sources. Game time, bruisers with conqueror, poke being too strong at bot lane are all things that make adcs feel weaker. However, I don't agree with the way riot as trying to buff adcs in. On pbe, there were buffs to the adcs' damage (I believe they all got reverted).
You can build survivability items like Tabi and GA, but it generally won't be enough. You also can't really rush those items (at least GA) since you need crit as a hypercarry, or other items depending on what adc you play. Draven is like one of the only ones who can somewhat rush GA as a first item. If you go black cleaver as a traditional carry (onhit/crit), you lose out on the cdr. The item is also geared more towards bruisers than damage dealers. However I might try it as a substitute for LW and it could work. Zhonya only works on on hit users and ezreal. Either way, I don't want adcs to be overbuffed or anything. I just want to be able to play my adcs on even footing. Right now, I'm just playing mid lane since it feels dumb to play crit adcs right now. Then again, I have mainly played tristana adc and she's pretty bad right now (I just saw her win ratio at literally 42.8%, 0.88% pick ratio on op.gg). I mean maybe not best site (lolgraph shows it at 45.2% win ratio), but it still shows she's weak and it could make my opinion slightly biased.
Elkington VI1 votesAdcs feel bad to play right now. When everyone can 1 shot you while it takes you a longer time to scale up, it makes it very hard to play that role. Also, with all the base stat nerfs, adcs are even weaker early game. Why play an adc when you can simply just play a bruiser or a cheesy type of mage lane and completely demolish the lane at a point of no return?
Also, you are over rating adcs before the huge nerf. They were slightly op, but they were no where near completely broken. Adcs being mandator doesn't = adcs being broken.
Then maybe the marksman role should be reworked to be less binary, insted of the usual buff/nerf cycle where they're either too strong or borderline useless.
Marksmen and assassins seem to be the hardest roles to balance in this game, since both tend to offer nothing but damage to a team (they don't have enough utility to fall back on).
SwiftKitten881 votesplease for the love of god dont buff ADC... nerf other classes to match, do NOT make the exact same mistake u did in season 6 when u fixed them then too.. nerf the other classes to match.. but do NOT buff adc's