Its actually funny, Games last 15-25 minutes yet late game champs are dominating >52% W/R in Diamond

Hópe··7 votes·782 views

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Its almost as if late game champs should be worse off in shorter games

I quite enjoy getting Q'd by the 12 minute Tri-force from Gangplank for about 250+

or the classic Vayne whos supposed to be stomped in diamond.. But has a 53% win rate in diamond

i also enjoy the Twitch / KogMaw who now hit late game off 1 item ( Kog with guinsoos and thats it )

But who am i.. Logic isnt supposed to apply to a person like me now is it.

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YoIocaust2 votes

i just checked to see how many views my post had and what do ya know your compaining the same shit as me cause its all BULLSHIT.

Hópe1 votes

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Vayne doesnt break 50% until 30-35 minutes

Same for Twitch

Same for Kog

GP actually falls off lategame lel

When you take out the bronze silver and gold games, Vayne and Gangplank both have 53% win rate in diamond.

The point of the thread is to say ''games are shorter yet these late game scaling champs had their win rate increase''

Which obviously doesnt make sense. Thats supposed to be proportional in a different way.

Eedat1 votes

Thats Plat+ lol. Probably because 25-30 minutes is the average game time. For a better look, check this out:

https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/infographics/patch-7-24-infographics

The vast majority acutally last longer than 25 minutes and just under 50% of games still last longer than 30 minutes. In Diamond games, at 30-35 minutes champs will be hitting 4 items (not including boots) which more or less is endgame where these champs do quite well.

Hópe1 votes

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Thats Plat+ lol. Probably because 25-30 minutes is the average game time. For a better look, check this out:

https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/infographics/patch-7-24-infographics

The vast majority acutally last longer than 25 minutes and just under 50% of games still last longer than 30 minutes. In Diamond games, at 30-35 minutes champs will be hitting 4 items (not including boots) which more or less is endgame where these champs do quite well.

For your first point, Isnt it scarier that in Plat+ Vayne ( the one whom is supposed to be lane bullied ) is sporting 53% win rate? If anything higher elo should drag her w/r down if games are shorter.

For your second point, The point is that these champs are kicking off late game power AT 10-15 minutes, at 30-35 its practically a free win. Look at Twitch, past 40 minutes hes a 59.8% win rate

Other late game champs are like that but they shouldnt be strong this much, so early.

YoIocaust1 votes

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For your first point, Isnt it scarier that in Plat+ Vayne ( the one whom is supposed to be lane bullied ) is sporting 53% win rate? If anything higher elo should drag her w/r down if games are shorter.

For your second point, The point is that these champs are kicking off late game power AT 10-15 minutes, at 30-35 its practically a free win. Look at Twitch, past 40 minutes hes a 59.8% win rate

Other late game champs are like that but they shouldnt be strong this much, so early.

nah mate, the higher you get the higher lategame champs winrate becomes due to playing not to lose all while still being able to win lane. its a red sign when lucian isnt meta and ashe/sivir/jinx are almost never picked cause they dont scale as hard as twitch/kog/vayne but they also have less kill potential and no escapes and dont benefit from ardent cancer as good as twitch/kog/vayne do.....

Hópe1 votes

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nah mate, the higher you get the higher lategame champs winrate becomes due to playing not to lose all while still being able to win lane. its a red sign when lucian isnt meta and ashe/sivir/jinx are almost never picked cause they dont scale as hard as twitch/kog/vayne but they also have less kill potential and no escapes and dont benefit from ardent cancer as good as twitch/kog/vayne do.....

I agree. The fact that they dont even have as much kill potential or scale as hard is definitly a red sign.

Penns2 votes

dont forget Anivia Ryze AurelionSol buying item 3010 and the first 2 item 3070 but still winning lane :))) rework fizz imo lel

HaIlMonitor1 votes

Its because they scale better off of items usually. So one kill on Vayne means a lot more then 1 kill on lucian because she abuses the gold better.

Look at how oppressive champs like Nasus and veigar get when they get ahead. Not only do they get the extra items (even if its tanky stuff) from the gold, they also get more damage.

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