Can we get an actual AP grievous wounds item.

ApexInTheCircle·Jan 6, 2018·2 votes·445 views

Because 35% on Morello isn't good enough.

11 Comments

SasogwaJan 6, 20182 votes

How about no? If anything it's executioner's calling that is bullshit, not the lack of antihealing from mages. And I don't think heal champions should be balanced around having too strong antihealing items available. That can only end up with putting them as slightly overpowered unless you buy the specific counter item, I don't really like that binary stuff.

TengenToppaGnarJan 6, 20181 votes

. . . Please don't call Grevious Wounds bullshit, when cancers like Mundo, Nasus, and Maokai exist, who have ingrain abilities/passive to heal stupid amounts.

SasogwaJan 6, 20182 votes

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. . . Please don't call Grevious Wounds bullshit, when cancers like Mundo, Nasus, and Maokai exist, who have ingrain abilities/passive to heal stupid amounts.

Well maybe those should be balanced around grievous wound not being a thing, aka nerfed

TengenToppaGnarJan 6, 20181 votes

Or you know, its meant to be counter-play against super self-sustaining champs so they don't become completely unmanageable, cause your team comp wasn't made for it. Yes, lets just let YI and any adc heal back to full health through AS and Lifesteal, instead of giving an option to gimp that strategy. Don't be salty about an item that actually doesn't see that much play in the first place :X

Kat and Trist used to have these in their kit. Otherwise its have Ignite or get bent if you take away Grevious Wound items >_>

redniwediSJan 6, 20181 votes

Get bent if they get taken away? You did see the guy said champs should be balanced around grievous wounds being removed, right?

Sustain wouldn't become overpowered, sustain would get nerfed alongside grievous wound's removal.

TengenToppaGnarJan 6, 20181 votes

Yeah, not even gonna consider the amount of math that be involved to bring everyone in line, when Grevious Wounds is excessively niche and rarely even seen besides the fact. (Yes I know Morello is an overstuffed piece of shit that almost every mage buys) we're talking about EC/MR in particular, something anyone can buy and apply with AD damage of any sort. Damned if its there, damned if its not, is what you're looking at, and the damning to remove it, would reaaaaaaally fuck up balancing.

King of DemonsJan 6, 20181 votes

I don't want a long range siege mage to apply healing reduction at all times in the game, hell no. It becomes relevant during bursts, which most mages do. It's balanced, it isn't underpowered.

AhrisJan 6, 20181 votes

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I don't want a long range siege mage to apply healing reduction at all times in the game, hell no. It becomes relevant during bursts, which most mages do. It's balanced, it isn't underpowered.

He meant alternate not buff morello. Like adcs applying gw at every auto.

redniwediSJan 6, 20181 votes

Morello existing is still a problem just because of it's duration. That 8 second grievous wound is pretty darn strong, and having a second AP item that works at higher health could be an issue. If the grevious wound passives are unique and can't stack I'd be all for one that works at high health with a low grievous wound duration, closer to how mortal reminder works.

TengenToppaGnarJan 6, 20181 votes

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Because 35% on Morello isn't good enough.

The problem is the existence of DoT abilities, something extremely rare in the AD scene, outside of asshole Darius. If you give someone like Brand, Singed, etc an AP version of Executioner's Calling, you'll be seeing some REALLY TOXIC gameplay, all relevant puns intended.