[{quoted}](name=Mira Arya Enthe,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=psrXVkU6,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-03-30T17:33:12.433+0000)
Bot lane fucking sucks.
i'll try to keep my biase out as a support main then
[{quoted}](name=Mira Arya Enthe,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=psrXVkU6,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-03-30T17:33:12.433+0000)
One role is a ward bot because Riot nerfs them anytime they get strong.
that's like saying midlane/toplane/adc is a farm bot role
Supports have as much to do as any other role: teamfight+roaming+instead of farming they have to ward. What exactly is wrong with warding?
Supports have the power of life and death in their hands
every single one of them(except the universal exception that is Sona) have the ability to decide if an ally dies or not, and if an enemy dies or not
bard ult
tahm kench W
thresh W
and why the fuck are you adding bot to it?
Warding has evolve from warding the entire map to ward 3 important location+control wards that can dominate a game if placed in objective areas or sieging against twitch and eve
[{quoted}](name=Mira Arya Enthe,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=psrXVkU6,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-03-30T17:33:12.433+0000)
Or is a pseudo carry mage who relies on frustrating cheese harass and early kills on a class with no early game agency.
Malzahar is the only remaining one that i see played botlane, everything else has almost disappeared zyra vel'koz or brand
and that's good malzahar just needs to be gutted then reworked
on the other hand, there are unfun "supports" that you low elo players don't have to deal with
costless low risk All in, combined with one of the most frustrating ult ever, she's tankier than braum or alistar while going full tank and still deals as much damage as a bruiser(which is a lot by definition)
no counterplay poke + one of the most braindead teamfight spell that has too much base damage
no reasons to pick leona instead of nautilus, no reasons at all
[{quoted}](name=Mira Arya Enthe,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=psrXVkU6,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-03-30T17:33:12.433+0000)
I'd say at least tank supports are fun but it has been so long since I heard anything about milking those that I forgot if they are fun.
nerfed into oblivion
nerfed into oblivion
is being buffed
works perfectly well until diamond 1
i don't want this pick to be viable again, when she's viable she just forces enchenters to not be picked
[{quoted}](name=Mira Arya Enthe,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=psrXVkU6,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-03-30T17:33:12.433+0000)
With stuff like Vel'Koz and Caitlyn Harass and 4 man ganks
wtf is this?
highest win rate adcs are twitch kog lucian kalista right now, why the fuck are you talking about caitlyn?
bork is busted, caitlyn isn't and doesn't build bork. If you're a bork abuser you just buy
sustain the lane with warlord and destroy her later
[{quoted}](name=Mira Arya Enthe,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=psrXVkU6,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-03-30T17:33:12.433+0000)
people who can one shot squishies like Jhin
Teach me how you can oneshot someone with jhin, i want to abuse it cause i can't seem to do that
[{quoted}](name=Mira Arya Enthe,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=psrXVkU6,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-03-30T17:33:12.433+0000)
Rior really needs to think about how fun it isn't playing Marksman, Enchanter or Tank bot lane these days.
Thresh Lulu karma nami soraka janna and even sona until you arrive in high elo
[{quoted}](name=Mira Arya Enthe,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=psrXVkU6,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-03-30T17:33:12.433+0000)
I don't care if they are viable or not. The lane is just miserable.
for tank supprots? yes, because of infinity poke that they receive playing braum is impossible
everything else is not miserable
[{quoted}](name=Mira Arya Enthe,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=psrXVkU6,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-03-30T17:33:12.433+0000)
But because there is so much aggression in bot lane now that you either have to join it and play Caitlyn/Zyra
if you can't win 2v2 with lulu you did something bad
If you can't disengage a fight or negate the poke with janna you did something bad
i could go on it for years
[{quoted}](name=Mira Arya Enthe,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=psrXVkU6,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-03-30T17:33:12.433+0000)
I think ADC and Supports need an overhaul in general.
correction: tank supports need massive buffs because they suck
enchenters need a rework to make them feel different
adc don't need anything until they become an option, because it's been 7 years that the role has never been balanced
ADC: always 2 or 3 picks and everything else sucks
toplane: always 1 or 2 picks above everything else, but you can still play everything
and if you don't believe me look at toplane viable picks since the begining
if i ignored things in your thread it means you were right