The new morde ult will be a huge problem.

letsfeedtogether··16 votes·10,761 views

His new ult will take the enemy to another realm where they fight ot death or until it ends. Meaning morde can just take the fed adc to his ult in a team fight and Boom . Even the 1 sec it takes the adc to kill the morde. He wont be helping his team and the enemy team has a high chance of winning. That could be a big problem.

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SweedishGunner7 votes

It'll be huge for pro play I reckon.

Slack King5 votes

I find it weird everyone is like oh no he will just take out the adc. In pro play, he can just take out their tank. Then the rest of his team can just run over the rest

letsfeedtogether3 votes

Adc was an example

AbiwonKenabi4 votes

What tank?

Support Position4 votes

Thats called a comeback champion.

ModAcademy Kayn5 votes

I'd rather have a Jukebox Hero.

Akali Prime4 votes

if Sylas and Mordekaiser ult eachother will they delete themselves from existence for the rest of the game? what if Yuumi is tagged along? does she go too?

Alitaher0031 votes

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if Sylas and Mordekaiser ult eachother will they delete themselves from existence for the rest of the game? what if Yuumi is tagged along? does she go too?

I feel like Yuumi will get knocked off of her target, whether it be Mordy or his unfortunate victim.

crippler382 votes

Yuumi confirmed by Malicious Metal (who tested it) to get knocked off.

HopeStartsWithU3 votes

He will either be gutted or insanely OP and stay that way. Morde can even waste more time by building some tankyness combined with zhonyas. He can also take out the jungle at a baron fight, pratically removing smite from the enemy team. It's just insanely busted alone for the fact that he can ruin the one player who is solo carrying his team just because he can.

I am probably alone with this but I hate the new ult.

Xenos von Faneli2 votes

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He will either be gutted or insanely OP and stay that way. Morde can even waste more time by building some tankyness combined with zhonyas. He can also take out the jungle at a baron fight, pratically removing smite from the enemy team. It's just insanely busted alone for the fact that he can ruin the one player who is solo carrying his team just because he can.

I am probably alone with this but I hate the new ult.

ooh yeah ulting the jungler at baron would be insane, the stolen stats plus the baron debuff would guarantee you win.

GripaAviara1 votes

I can see this be a big problem in pro play

Mogarl1 votes

I can see why you're concerned, but I think it's a bit early. A high cooldown and enough of a combat bonus inside his ult that he needs to ult to win closer fights could balance it out.

Worst case scenario you connect the duration to how much damage Morde is doing. Then Morde won't be able to stall it out as easily.

HopeStartsWithU1 votes

A high cooldown doesnt stop karthus from ganking everywhere with ult. So I doubt high CD will balance things out.

I am sure it will be at least bearable in soloq but a nightmare in e sports. Fed enemies will definitly delete morde fast enough to join their team but cant say the same in e sports when people rarely are insanely ahead of the enemey team. Inting on him wouldnt even that bad since he can just take a fed enemy out. Somehow they managed to lower the skill expression on morde.

Nrsh3 votes

That just means he turns the fight into a 4v4 and when he dies, the fed carry is back to help his team. And if your problem is that the carry's team might lose the 4v4, well let me tell you something: the current state of the game of one hyper carry being able to destroy the entire enemy team in teamfights isn't balanced, if his team can't win or at least stall a 4v4 then they don't really deserve the win, the only one who might deserve to win is the carry (something which is also often debatable since there are some champs who don't have much counter play and reward the player too much for a small lead). If something, the problem with the ult is ulting champs like Soraka, who is easy to 1v1. Ulting her will deny her heals while you also get a higher chance for a kill, however it's not like his new kit allows him to just automatically catch the Soraka, she can play around him, stalling (and... playing well), it has counter play (also, I don't know, but her ult might still be able to heal her teamates while in Morde's ult).

GripaAviara1 votes

Yeah, and the fed ADC might return to a 2v1 with the enemy ADC and another teammate who won the fight. An exposed ADC stands no chance vs a master yi for example

Shahamut3 votes

everyone keeps complaining about his taking the "fed carry" out of the fight...

the REAL benefit of this ult is securing Dragon/Baron, because you wont have smite. :)

Jimmy Rustles2 votes

You mean like, any form of CC?

Dang, so problematic

letsfeedtogether2 votes

item 3111 item 3053 item 3140 item 3222 item 2138 and peel can help with cc. They probably cannot help with his ult.

Nrsh2 votes

qss does cancel his ult...

NaturesMayhem3 votes

Has that been confirmed or are you just speaking out of your ass?

letsfeedtogether1 votes

+1

Nrsh1 votes

It was confirmed, and you shouldn't be so disrespectful, at least not before you know I'm making things up.

Nrsh1 votes

Also, let me remind you that Fiora's parry, Morgana's black shield, Sivir's shield and Nocturne's shield block it altogether. I'll also add Cleanse (the summoner spell) and Gangplank's orange into your list, both just take you right bacl imto summoner's rift.

Xenos von Faneli1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Jimmy Rustles,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=pqUbiJHa,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-05-27T17:12:58.284+0000)

You mean like, any form of CC?

Dang, so problematic

The ult seems to have a decent cast range, is on click, and lasts 7 seconds. short of possibly spell shields it doesn't seem avoidable and you can't cleanse out of it. Most hard cc last at most maybe a second or 2.

NaturesMayhem1 votes

It's taric stun 2.0, but on a champion that might be useful.

REQUIEMBOW2 votes

Yes but as the adc will not be helping his team, neither morde will.. In this case both team could try to take time, waiting to see who win the 1v1 an then they will force the fight advantaged by the number superiority...btw... Idk that... can the others players see how the 1v1 is going? Or morde and the unlucky guy targetted by the ulti are totally hidden??!?

Anyway... I was waiting this kind of ulti for so long.... Fighting 1v1 that kind of player that feel so strong prptected by huge frontlane with high cc and thousands healing and shielding... Oh god... I'll be able to taste their real skill [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

radetari1 votes

yeah, thats why he can save it for until there is one guy left and if he dies in the ult at least the enemy is still close to his team when they leave the arena

Naono1 votes

I can see the bugs that's going come with it.

Like probably not being able to interact with teammates when ult end. Like you still stick in your ult. lol

I think Nexus blitz help inspired his ult or vice versa.

Ionian Vulpix1 votes

I can't wait to see him ult a Vayne and have Vayne come out the winner.

Pendergast8911 votes

Have we seen what its like from another perspective? Do both teams see morde and his target disappear? If they do it would have some neat positioning shenanigans.

Akali Prime1 votes

morde removes himself from the fight too. making it a 4v4 if the adc kills him and returns, lets assume both teams are low from the 4v4 teamfight and the adc returns and makes it a 5v4 clean up

Xenos von Faneli1 votes

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morde removes himself from the fight too. making it a 4v4 if the adc kills him and returns, lets assume both teams are low from the 4v4 teamfight and the adc returns and makes it a 5v4 clean up

ok but most would agree that with the way the game plays currently, certain roles are just more valuable than others, especially at pro level where gold is funneled towards the carrys, plus it's always been cheaper to buy tank stats vs damage, and morde steals stats as well

Light deus1 votes

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ok but most would agree that with the way the game plays currently, certain roles are just more valuable than others, especially at pro level where gold is funneled towards the carrys, plus it's always been cheaper to buy tank stats vs damage, and morde steals stats as well

Don't you need to kill the person?

crippler381 votes

Stolen during ult and while target is respawning.

DeleteSuppRole1 votes

so what are you exactly talking about ?

Spicy Rice1 votes

Thing is, it's not like people are just going to ignore morde. He will be a priority target, and I'm guessing good players are going to get used to disengaging from fights the moment morde ults.

MuffledGarbage1 votes

Nautilus already could do what Morde's ult is going to do, but Morde's ult isn't going to be a guaranteed win for his team if he hits it. Naut's ult is going to be a guaranteed win if he hits it in proplay teamfight.

TheSingularity1 votes

Remember, it's also up to 7 seconds without the morde in your teams face. The spell also looks melee, and if he's getting into melee range of your adc, you're doing something very wrong

Moonscourge1 votes

You can QSS it at least.

Troll for Trump1 votes

Fixes the juggernaut problem

Saezio1 votes

I don't find it too problematic. But I got some questions someone could hopefully answer.

How long does it last? What happens if you exit the circle? What happens if you got banshee or edge? What happens if the targeted person has morgana shield or is sivir and uses E?

letsfeedtogether1 votes

How long does it last? 7 What happens if you exit the circle? nothing. you cant What happens if you got banshee or edge? nothing. you can hide but not run What happens if the targeted person has morgana shield or is sivir and uses E? dont know

Saezio1 votes

Oh the edge of the circle is like camille R then. So you can cast it on someone with banshee/edge up and it won't be blocked? :O Sounds unintended to me.

My only beef with the Ult is that you might be able to use it to perma splitpush with 0 chance to get caught by multiples. Especially in soloq.

letsfeedtogether1 votes

i dont know if the spell shield blocks it. we will know today when its out on the pbe

Asud1 votes

I love it! The entire theme. The looks. Pretty much like Lich King. Everything screams COOL let the adc mains cry its healthy for children to let a tear sometimes until they grow up LOL just kidding

Saianna1 votes

But if he "kidnaps" someone to his realm... How is he supposed to kill his victim? Isn't he still immobile and slow af? He'll be just a a free frag for anyone relased after 2015

PAMWOW1 votes

No one gonna talk about the fact that he can just ult the enemy jg when they are on baron?

He in another dimension now so no smite for baron, your jg smites easy baron.

No one talking about this??

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