how is this ok? like in what world should an assasin be so safe. bring so much damage. execute. give his team more gold hook AND have mobility with a stun?
please take the slow. make his stun 0.75 or something
make his passive healing OUT OF COMBAT
Can riot just delete pyke? What happened to high risk high reward? More like, high reward, barely any risks.
The worst thing is the fact that pyke was supposed to be a support :/
Most of his kit is balanced. It's the execute gold gain that should be needed imo, maybe pull some damage too.
To play the devil's advocate though, every champion seems OP if you lost every part of his kit. Let's take thresh:
Infinite scaling armor Infinite scaling AP Hook Stun on the hook Dash Pulling allies to himself Shielding Knockback both ways Extra damage on basic attacks Ult that slows and damages.
I think the main issue with pyke is his healing and the way his ult scales/causes scaling.
Most assassins can get shut down by poke, but not pyke cause he heals it all back. The grey health doesn't need to scale and should have a timer or something for the healing to start, not just "press w to regain 70% of recently lost hp".
Ult needs nerfs to scaling and the gold income. An execute that powerful doesn't need to scale so hard; why can he execute people from >50% hp? Scaling. That's why. Gold part is self explanatory, just revert it to where it was before.
This belongs in rant.
His heal is basically out of combat and is not a heal. His stealth and ms is only good as a roaming tool His dash is his cc meaning he has to jump on a enemy and is stuck there. His hook is the weakest in the game.
Like maybe just maybe actually think about a champion instead of listening there abilities. Like basically every champion can sound op if you list there kit.
Annie is op she has a point and click stun, refundable poke, a damage reduction shield, a aoe ult that can stun everyone and her range is the same as a lot of adcs.
See it's not hard to just list abilities to make champions seen broken.
He ain't an assassin.
He sure as hell looks like one, but he isn't.
An assassin is defined by the following pattern:
Strictly speaking, Pyke follows that pattern, but there's a crucial difference between Pyke and other Assassins.
If a Zed wants somebody dead, he goes in and kills them.
Same for Talon, Rengar, Kha, Leblanc, Fizz, you name it. They're all pretty independent of their teams.
Pyke, on the other hand, can't do that. Pyke can't solo kill. He can mop up once his team does some heavy lifting, but if a Pyke is tasked with killing somebody on his own he's just going to fail unless his target is behind.
As much as I hate Pyke, he is honestly fine. He is countered so extremely hard by lulu it's not even funny. Maybe the only thing even remotely problematic is the scaling of his ult. If even that. Pyke can't really deal with mobility. Sure he'll probably mop a Miss Fortune, but people like lucian will just dash out of literally all of his skills. Hell with decent timing draven could even knock Pyke out of his ult.
he's kinda like bard. You kinda dominate early and then hope you snowball enough so your ADC can manage by himself and then go around picking people off in other lanes. Because he cannot be tanky, he is very susceptible to falling off.
I know your frustration though. Everyone has that one champ they just CANNOT play against for whatever reason. Mine is Blitzcrank. For whatever reason, even when I am pretty good at dodging, I just cannot seem to read his grab lol.
The things I have always wanted to see changed on him:
His stun duration is a meh for me because by making it easier to dodge it is more risky to try and land but more rewarding for when you actually do land it.
I agree that Pyke is disgusting, but listing out Pyke's capabilities isn't the way to go in order to make a constructive argument.
For example: Garen. A juggernaut with true damage, free movespeed, free resists, a FAST HEAL OUT OF COMBAT a spin to win move, TRUE DAMAGE ULTIMATE, silence.
Pyke has no in combat healing. If you can see him he cant heal.
Udyr, a juggernaut with bonus Attack speed, dmg over time, aoe dmg, shield, healing, mobility, auto attacks AND a stun.
