So let me ask this: How the fuck 
doesn't have a good win rate then? he counters ADC even more and Hard counter Tryndamere:
he has 2 25% AS debuff, and can build frozen heart to have his E on a low cd + the AS debuff
really just start playing him support or jungle.
Cherysse7 votesBecause Nunu needs an improved kit.
A Miss Fortune1 votesI think he needs buffs not a rework though. I'd be sad if they reworked him because he's one of the only supports who aren't forced to go bot lane.
Cherysse1 votesHe is a better jungler, still it is hard for him to play because there is little he can do by being a mele champ that can only poke you with an AS buff that does very little for his kit.
A Miss Fortune1 votesNo I mean, he's a jungle but he's a support. When people think of supports they immediately assume Soraka, Janna, Sona, etc, champions who can't really do that great outside of bot lane support (actually Soraka Top is cancer), Nunu goes jungle but he's a support jungler and that's why I like him.
Shas O2 votesrammus and nunu's ultis are both equally the same i think
rammus has better speed, while nunu is not fast enough the attack speed bonus OK, but is better with auto attack oriented champions. consume is an extra smite, and the ice blast is good, better with cd.
rammus has defense curl (which needs to be nerfed) at the same time has a strong taunt, with thornmail as a 2nd item. rammus is a stronger champion against auto attack oriented champions then nunu is
KONO RUBICK DA1 votes[{quoted}](name=Shas O,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=pmaIBxQX,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2015-11-17T17:06:07.688+0000)
rammus and nunu's ultis are both equally the same i think
rammus has better speed, while nunu is not fast enough the attack speed bonus OK, but is better with auto attack oriented champions. consume is an extra smite, and the ice blast is good, better with cd.
rammus has defense curl (which needs to be nerfed) at the same time has a strong taunt, with thornmail as a 2nd item. rammus is a stronger champion against auto attack oriented champions then nunu is
you're right, but you didn't mention that nunu can protect harder his team with the whole as debuff, while rammus can just protect them for 2.25 sec
Shas O1 votesyou're right, but you didn't mention that nunu can protect harder his team with the whole as debuff, while rammus can just protect them for 2.25 sec
against ad champs, nunu is better against meele ad champs and rammus is better against ranged ad
BUT rammus can give his carries those precious 2 seconds against a yi or trynd or jax so that they can kill them, not just saving the carry but killing a front line champ nunu is effective, but cannot stop a yi or jax that wants to go onto a carry, sometiems a trynd but nunu is better against trynd the most, then jax, and is OK but not cannot stop a yi from yi's ulti
so unless they have qss which most lower elo players wont get but ive seen it twice, rammus is more effective.
nunu might have better objective contorl iwth consume but rammus catching out potential and engage, just makes rammus an easier champion/better to play atm.
a GOOD nunu player might overcome an average rammus with a really well place ulti
LadyRenly2 votesYou assume that just because Tryndamere is picked, someone is going to pick Nunu. I've never seen a Nunu top in my life. Only mid, and that was enough cancer for me
EndlessSorcerer1 votesPlayed against Nunu mid once.
I was Vladimir.
It was a very boring laning phase.
JARmates1 votesI prefer boring lane over having to deal with Gnar, Quinn, and super broken Grave.
Shas O1 voteswhy do you think rammus has a high win rate?
Rise of the adc's means rise of Rammus.
Master yi and tryndamere are champs that i dont ban, so if they want to pick them. they will have to deal with the nightmare rammus is for those champions.
KONO RUBICK DA1 votes[{quoted}](name=Shas O,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=pmaIBxQX,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2015-11-17T16:44:03.425+0000)
why do you think rammus has a high win rate?
Rise of the adc's means rise of Rammus.
Master yi and tryndamere are champs that i dont ban, so if they want to pick them. they will have to deal with the nightmare rammus is for those champions.
why nunu doesn't have this win rate then?
JARmates1 votesI kill rammus as Tryndamere main. I get Mortal Reminder and LDR. Sometime thornmail too. Rammus will not beat me 1 vs 1 even with his ult taunt.
Shas O1 votesI kill rammus as Tryndamere main. I get Mortal Reminder and LDR. Sometime thornmail too. Rammus will not beat me 1 vs 1 even with his ult taunt.
rammus isnt meant to 1v1, if he can 1v1 anyone they are too far behind, or not ahead enough. your just lucky he was stupid enough to do it, because rammus is just a utility/support jungler
JARmates2 votesTrue but he figure he rammus, the anti ADC so he went 1 on 1 with me.
luckmallory1 votesOnce tryndamere has 3 items he can smash rammus's skull in.
Shas O1 votesOnce tryndamere has 3 items he can smash rammus's skull in.
cinderhulk thornmail and then maybe frostborn gauntlet or frozen heart, maybe an mr item if the other team has more ap then ad.
regardless trynd wont be able to kill a rammus even with three items, grant it the rammus will get less farm cuz of jungle, but trynd cant kill a rammus fast enough with his team there, if trynd is foccusing rammus hes putting his dmg into the wrong champion
luckmallory2 votesI never said he would focus Rammus, all i said was he could smash rammus's skull in. If he caught him in the jungle without his team trynd would kill him with a BORK, berserker greaves and a Statick. Assuming rammus has the same number of items. In a team fight any tryndamere would just ignore rammus and not care about him.
Martyrofsand1 votesTryn isn't better because of ADCs he is better because he can build all the new ADC items and towers are easier to kill, and he has the new rift herald buff to further buff his split pushing, and warlords bloodlust to add to his sustain, and an easy way to reach 40% CDR if he wants it.
In general he got buffed a shittop by pre-season and right now if you die to tryn chances are he will take 2 turrets by the time you respawn.
Vanjie1 votesHe is taking advantage of the new keynote mastery . . . bloodythirsty or something . . . . and he is benefiting way too much from the AD changes to items. He can build static shiv and infinity edge . . . and do damage to your entire health . . . pair that with his obnoxious passive that keeps him alive . . . and a heal that is OP . . . . Tryn is incredibly broken. It's ok .. . Riot is working on it. Will see a change to him and Yasuo in 2 months. They are gonna keep all the broken stuff on live for 2-3 months.
I for one am leaving by the end of the week if I do not see any changes.
Shas O1 votes[{quoted}](name=Black Arachne,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=pmaIBxQX,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2015-11-17T17:21:42.554+0000)
He is taking advantage of the new keynote mastery . . . bloodythirsty or something . . . . and he is benefiting way too much from the AD changes to items. He can build static shiv and infinity edge . . . and do damage to your entire health . . . pair that with his obnoxious passive that keeps him alive . . . and a heal that is OP . . . . Tryn is incredibly broken. It's ok .. . Riot is working on it. Will see a change to him and Yasuo in 2 months. They are gonna keep all the broken stuff on live for 2-3 months.
I for one am leaving by the end of the week if I do not see any changes.
I think trynd needs to be reworked honestly his rage and his ulti and maybe his spin makes sense to me, but his kit feels clunky. even if he is op atm, and needs to be nerfed in some way either the items or the champion. i think counterplay is something people ahvent figured out or dont realize its there.
runedara1 votesMostly I think it's like the old gp. Run up and hit them and that's it really all you can do. Not many tricky plays you can do,
LordGeovanni1 votes1because people dont play nunu much 2 because nunu is pretty shit unless you have some ap and the way you speak of useing nunu means you ahve to rely on allies to help you and relying on allies is why get about 60% of my losses compared to about 32% of my wins. also dashes are rampant so nunu's ult which requites set up positioning and charge is gonna be hard to be effective
KONO RUBICK DA1 votes1because people dont play nunu much 2 because **nunu is pretty shit **unless you have some ap and the way you speak of useing nunu means you ahve to rely on allies to help you and relying on allies is why get about 60% of my losses
brings 50% as buff, 15% ms buff brings 25% as debuff, as well as 50% slow to give him allies a good time to kit trynd brings 1k damage good counterjungle
how is this shit?
JARmates1 votesTrynd activate his mercurial and all of that cc is gone.
KONO RUBICK DA1 votesTrynd activate his mercurial and all of that cc is gone.
nunu's ulti can't be gone with mercurial, so does frozen heart
and his E with cdr has like 4 sec cd for 3 sec slow?
JARmates1 votesReally? i have not face a nunu for a while then.
Quintastic1 votesNunu's Ult is interrupted by a strong wind. Literally anything and everything cancels his ult. And he gets no cooldown compensation for his ult to come back quicker after being interrupted. It's just wasted.
His Q only works on minions and monsters. So if you're trying to do Lane Nunu you have an ENTIRE ability that is borderline useless.
His W only makes his attack speed marginally OK. So you have to keep spamming W in order to have any sort of waveclear beyond just wasting your ult to stop being pushed.
His E does absolute shit for damage. And even if the slow is useful for his team for his laning phase individually he's too slow to actually capitalize on his own CC because by the time he lumbers over to the slowed enemy champion they are already back to normal before you even get one auto in.
He needs a complete rework. His kit is 5 years old and it shows. He's outclassed by just about everyone. The only reason he even is picked as a Jungler anymore is because his Q does a shit ton of damage to monsters. That's it.
Jungle Lux God1 votesHow much is Nunu being picked right now?
Nunu isn't just amazing against ADC's. He's amazing WITH ADC's. His AS buff is incredible, and with a meta having so many ADC's all around him there are so many good targets for Nunu to buff.
I should play Nunu a lot this preseason. He seems really good right now.
Great Ozymandius1 votesjust get teemo, build rageblade, frozen mallet, gunblade, and greaves. Tryndamere will cry. You crush him in lane and can zone him enough he can't proc his crit based lifesteal. You can survive burst when he tries to all in you, then kite him an lifesteal back up health, you can push waves super fast.
teemo counters trynda so well an rageblade is super strong on him.
The Whamboozler1 votesTrynd counters the OP adc's everywhere AND abuses the same crit mastery they are abusing. That's why he's bananas right now.
7ha7guy7771 votesWhat about 
?
Up to 50% AoE attack speed slow on a stupid low cooldown after 
Movement speed steal
1.5 second AoE knockup
Armor scaling damage
Can be played top, jungle, or support
I know he has a high win rate but it seems like he does what does too. Maybe malphite is simply doing nunu's job better and that's why nunu's win rate hasn't spiked.
paperbIade1 votesTryndamere is the most stupidest champion in the game next to vlad