am losing 20 lp per game and gaining 17

MunchCrunchLunch··3 votes·8,120 views

OP.GG says that my MMR is normal? can I understand what is happening here. all of the sudden this started a cpl days ago. I lost like 3 game sin a row but then I won 2 in a row and you know I had worse streaks before like losing 15 or so in a row but even then I started gaining 19-18 lp. not going from 20-21 lp to 17 over 3 game loss streak or so. I mean this is just weird. I understand how this works. my winrate is 51%

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excodar2 votes

na.op.gg cant calculate your actual mmr. its actually probably lower then the average for your rank.

MunchCrunchLunch1 votes

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na.op.gg cant calculate your actual mmr. its actually probably lower then the average for your rank.

why is it lower than average? am doing fine in my matches. if am winning half of my matches i should be getting 20 and losing 20 thats how it works

excodar1 votes

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why is it lower than average? am doing fine in my matches. if am winning half of my matches i should be getting 20 and losing 20 thats how it works

I actually don't understand that myself. My guess is that you are losing against teams that have the lower MMR. The only thing I can do is tell you how to fix your MMR if you want.

MunchCrunchLunch1 votes

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I actually don't understand that myself. My guess is that you are losing against teams that have the lower MMR. The only thing I can do is tell you how to fix your MMR if you want.

let me guess? win games more than losing them right? or idk. duoing with some plat player and try to tryhad win in a higher mmr enviroment

excodar1 votes

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let me guess? win games more than losing them right? or idk. duoing with some plat player and try to tryhad win in a higher mmr enviroment

No, you dodge your series every time you reach 100 lp until you like your lp gain

MunchCrunchLunch1 votes

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No, you dodge your series every time you reach 100 lp until you like your lp gain

ok thank you. i appreciate it.

LA Losty1 votes

Id rather just try to climb with lower mmr then :v

jaymc11301 votes

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why is it lower than average? am doing fine in my matches. if am winning half of my matches i should be getting 20 and losing 20 thats how it works

That's not at all how it works...

Normal MMR for a given division sees a typical gain per win of 20-24. And a loss of 13-16. Getting any less MMR than 20 in a win means your MMR is deflated for the given division. Getting any more MMR than 25 for a win means your MMR is inflated relative to the division.

Also, op.gg confirms your MMR is slightly lower than average for the division. Gold 5 is roughly 1500 MMR. You are below that. You have an MMR- of about 55 at the moment.

Additionally, 10 wins over .500 is usually the point at which a player reaches gold 5. You are less than 10 wins over .500. The system is working properly according to its algorithms, the gains and losses you are seeing are normal for your MMR. Nothing strange to see here, you just don't understand how the system works very well. At least ya learned something today. Hope it helps in the future.

Sahn Uzal1 votes

The team on redside of the map has the higher MMR, so if you lose a game on Redside you'll lose more LP than you would when playing on blue side. So that propably explains that :P

VvVVvV1 votes

how do you know the Red side has higher MMR?

Sahn Uzal1 votes

The team with the higher MMR is always playing on the red side. AFAIK it has always been like that. Statistically, the team on redside is better than the team on blue side, which is why you would lose more LP if you lose a game from redside

VvVVvV1 votes

Ok im not trying to be rude or anything but you basically just repeated yourself and still did not tell me anything else.

What I mean by asking how do you know is......How do you know this? This is the 1st time i ever heard this> Where did the info come from? Was it officially stated by Riot somehwere or is this just your opinion?

Sahn Uzal1 votes

I'm in class right now, so I can't really spend a lot of time looking for it =P

I might look for it later, but for now you could take my word for it, or don't. That's up to you :l

VvVVvV1 votes

thats cool...im not lazy...ill look for it myself. its interesting to see if this is true or not that is all.

BloodyTompon1 votes

It's wrong. Red side and blue side have 50/50. What he is misunderstanding is the method of achieving this.

There was originally a slight discrepancy in the win/loss from sides largely due to the camera angle and first pick of bans. To combat this the team MMR on blue side is artificially inflated. Because the blue side has an higher adjusted MMR the red side generally has people with higher individual MMR to make the team MMR approx. the same. The new iteration of MMR is calculated from the adjusted MMR and consequently the new iteration of LP is calculated on the adjust MMR.

BloodyTompon1 votes

This is incorrect. Red side and blue side have 50/50. What you are probably misunderstanding is the method of achieving this.

There was originally a slight discrepancy in the win/loss from sides largely due to the camera angle and first pick of bans. To combat this the team MMR on blue side is artificially inflated. Because the blue side has an higher adjusted MMR the red side generally has people with higher individual MMR to make the team MMR approx. the same. The new iteration of MMR is calculated from the adjusted MMR and consequently the new iteration of LP is calculated on the adjust MMR.

BeeCuz1 votes

My history over the past 41 ranked matches:

Up-ticks 21.07 +/- 3.30 (15 matches) Down-ticks -11.65 +/- 6.13 (26 matches)

google sheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11yGk3qnPmm63YtV3FkvovmKGrECks1FQnzVYUdPW8ZY/edit?usp=sharing

VvVVvV1 votes

Ok im completely lost when looking at this sheet but one thing about the Ranks tab......that pie chart.......but are you saying their are more people in Platinum rank than in Bronze and Diamond combined? I would think over half the league is in Bronze.

BeeCuz1 votes

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Ok im completely lost when looking at this sheet but one thing about the Ranks tab......that pie chart.......but are you saying their are more people in Platinum rank than in Bronze and Diamond combined? I would think over half the league is in Bronze.

I have no idea how you came to that conclusion. http://s33.postimg.org/5u2kvhnpr/image.png

VvVVvV1 votes

nm i mistook Silver for Platinum almost looks same color. well the dot does but not the chatrt chart.......colorblindness kicking in lol

BloodyTompon1 votes

You are not the only one in the system. Considering there has been a large influx of new ranked people I would suspect this is the main reason why.

Kedren Aderac1 votes

#Doesn't matter.

#Thanks to Dynamic Queue your rank means nothing anyway.

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