Because of the Lack of AP Bruiser itemization, Morderkaiser needs to have Magic Pen passive on his E

taleofsonata··2 votes·1,045 views

item 3071 Basically this on his E,

For the Love of god, just create a set of AP bruiser itemization and make them MELEE ONLY, literally every single AP melee bruisers are building mages items. Rumble SylasGalio Gragas etc.

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Sona Ping3 votes

I don't know if that's why it is there. Darius

Sir Saltarin3 votes

Noo no, if Darius has an E grab with armor pen passive it's because AD bruiser items are broken

But if Mordekaiser has an E grab with magic pen passive it's because AP bruiser items are bad

Sir Saltarin3 votes

Because of the Lack of AD Bruiser itemization, Darius needs to have Phisic Pen passive on his E

Does that work too?

hrooza dota 3 votes

i mean i agree theres a huge lack of ap bruiser items, but for sure its not the reason morde have magic pen on E

his E is exactly a darius E

Thingamajig1 votes

would be cool but before worlds it's kinda hard thing to implement maybe in preseason or who knows maybe we will get one before worlds it's been talked about for so long

Kazekiba2 votes

Riot's said the AP Bruiser itemization and item shop cleanup isn't likely to happen before Preseason. And considering most of Season 9's preseason changes were in 9.2, it could be quite a while.

However, we've already seen a number of WIP items - Gadgeteer's Wrench and a catch-all Support item called Spellthief's Ring, in addition to Spellthief's Edge being changed to Adaptive Force instead of AP. There's a few more items, though, and which ones are "Playtest items" and which are potential updates only Riot knows.

There's one with Sion's R as its icon, Atma's Reckoning (both listed as MR items, among whatever other stats they may have) and an item that resembles Stinger but red - Perhaps these may be AP Bruiser items

Thingamajig1 votes

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Riot's said the AP Bruiser itemization and item shop cleanup isn't likely to happen before Preseason. And considering most of Season 9's preseason changes were in 9.2, it could be quite a while.

However, we've already seen a number of WIP items - Gadgeteer's Wrench and a catch-all Support item called Spellthief's Ring, in addition to Spellthief's Edge being changed to Adaptive Force instead of AP. There's a few more items, though, and which ones are "Playtest items" and which are potential updates only Riot knows.

There's one with Sion's R as its icon, Atma's Reckoning (both listed as MR items, among whatever other stats they may have) and an item that resembles Stinger but red - Perhaps these may be AP Bruiser items

fingers crossed

Jaspers1 votes

Is the main issue with AP Bruiser/Fighter itemisation the fact they lack CDR with the bonus HP AD versions get? Trinity and BC have HP and CDR and other good passives for auto attack based champs allowing bruisers to build into their defensive items after while AP lack an item that gives that much in 1. No AP item has 20% CDR and HP. If they add a AP item that does, would this help?

Something like item 3067 + item 3101 + item 3113 + 500g = Item that give good stats plus Wit's End's old passive? Encouraging long sustained fights and not burst?

Poske1 votes

25% Magic pen is there so that his dmg stays constant through a game Else his damage would get lower as the game goes on and he would be forced to buy a voidstaff due to how OP it is but now he ll be able to build more of bruiser items not that there are any bruiser AP items XD.

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