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Zero Shingetsu··26 votes·9,241 views

Let me approach this differently. I was attempting to provide some levity for the sake of letting the community down easy, but if such filthy accusations are going to be cast upon me, I'll speak as is more natural for me.

I was, am, and will be the greatest support this game has ever known. Not a soul will ever surpass me at this role. I became this way after years of dedicated play. I truly loved this game once upon a time.

It has been desolated. The people who currently develop, write for, and illustrate for this game... No. I will not pass such broad judgment. I am more reasonable than this. At the very least, their bosses, the department directors, are absolutely abhorrent at their jobs. Someone at some level of this company has turned it into a disgrace to its former glory, through a clear and undeniable absence of even the most primitive recrephrenic understanding. Their sense of direction is so vulgar, so surfeiting of some self-perceived propitiation, that the game is awash in it and cannot find shore to stand upon. They are sore taxed of acumen, and it does the game no good whatsoever.

Leona with her shield up and nearly 300 armor dies to Lucian in four hits. Yasuo touches Sejuani and she dies instantly. This is not poor balance, this is unforgivably, illimitably defective game design. This is the sort of thing that makes a game unplayable. The difference between a sway-backed steed and a mount with one leg.

While Riot wastes time and wealth on drivel the likes of the fundamentally insulting embarrassment that is K/DA, and really the pro circuit in general, it allows the pillars of its game to go by the wayside in an unprecedented fashion. Never before have I seen such an altitudinous drop in a game's quality, and I place the blame squarely on prioritization. I've been trying to warn them from day one that their cretinous obsession with making League a "sport" would ruin this game, and they have ignored me time and again. Behold now my sagacity.

So do you want my honest opinion, then? I am leaving not because there are better MOBAs. Not because it's time to move on. I am leaving because this game has become thoroughly, assiduously worthless. It is beneath me. It does not deserve me. If you could realize the current code into physical form, it would not be fit to serve as my bath mat. It wouldn't even be fit as the tissue with which to deterge my eminent posterior. There would be no place for it in my perception; not as far as I could see, smell, or hear. And that is why I leave.

League and I cannot coexist. It defies the natural order. I leave because I only have time for things that are of at least perceptible value when compared to myself, and League no longer falls into that category. If the rest of you feel you are equal to its worth, that is your decision to make. But as for me, I am leaving, and I will consider rejoining if and only if the entire game is reimagined by a team with at least barely lucid talent under halfway reasonable management.

And thus you lost your best support and a tremendous amount of Twitch publicity, but fear not. I'm sure someone will one day climb the ranks to become at least one-one thousandth the tank I was.

66 Comments

Namîste39 votes

I was, am, and will be the greatest support this game has ever known

Best sentence I've ever heard from a Bronze 4 player whose last game went 1 / 16 / 17 as Leona

Jaegaer4 votes

LOOOOOOL

ROYALR3IGN6 votes

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Best sentence I've ever heard from a Bronze 4 player whose last game went 1 / 16 / 17 as Leona

I'm pretty sure thats the joke. The man has a sense of humor, its all in good fun.

Z3Sleeper4 votes

I'm loving reading all these comments from people who just don't get the joke. All pointing out OP's rank and performance instead.

ChikaanKreed10 votes

Well then, self-proclaimed goddess. I hope you take your amazingly superb feeding support skills with you wherever your travels may take you. I will sit in the comfort of great music and a nicer community now that we have lost another toxic member. Good riddance. Toodles~

Zero Shingetsu5 votes

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Well then, self-proclaimed goddess. I hope you take your amazingly superb feeding support skills with you wherever your travels may take you. I will sit in the comfort of great music and a nicer community now that we have lost another toxic member. Good riddance. Toodles~

The irony in this statement is twofold, but the one point I'll address here is that, according to my last reward, I reportedly receive 212% more Great Teammate honors than the average NA player. My beef is with the game, not the community. I pity the community.

Tahminatrix 3 votes

That and there was nothing you said in your post that was toxic at all, so either he was joking about calling you toxic and saying good riddance or he was just being toxic himself , trying to look for a random reason to put you down as an individual.

omegaheals8 votes

Is this a copypasta? I can't tell.

Zero Shingetsu2 votes

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Is this a copypasta? I can't tell.

If it were, I'd have submitted it to memes.

saltran2 votes

Let me approach this differently. I was attempting to provide some levity for the sake of letting the community down easy, but if such filthy accusations are going to be cast upon me, I'll speak as is more natural for me.

I was, am, and will be the greatest support this game has ever known. Not a soul will ever surpass me at this role. I became this way after years of dedicated play. I truly loved this game once upon a time.

It has been desolated. The people who currently develop, write for, and illustrate for this game... No. I will not pass such broad judgment. I am more reasonable than this. At the very least, their bosses, the department directors, are absolutely abhorrent at their jobs. Someone at some level of this company has turned it into a disgrace to its former glory, through a clear and undeniable absence of even the most primitive recrephrenic understanding. Their sense of direction is so vulgar, so surfeiting of some self-perceived propitiation, that the game is awash in it and cannot find shore to stand upon. They are sore taxed of acumen, and it does the game no good whatsoever.

Leona with her shield up and nearly 300 armor dies to Lucian in four hits. Yasuo touches Sejuani and she dies instantly. This is not poor balance, this is unforgivably, illimitably defective game design. This is the sort of thing that makes a game unplayable. The difference between a sway-backed steed and a mount with one leg.

While Riot wastes time and wealth on drivel the likes of the fundamentally insulting embarrassment that is K/DA, and really the pro circuit in general, it allows the pillars of its game to go by the wayside in an unprecedented fashion. Never before have I seen such an altitudinous drop in a game's quality, and I place the blame squarely on prioritization. I've been trying to warn them from day one that their cretinous obsession with making League a "sport" would ruin this game, and they have ignored me time and again. Behold now my sagacity.

So do you want my honest opinion, then? I am leaving not because there are better MOBAs. Not because it's time to move on. I am leaving because this game has become thoroughly, assiduously worthless. It is beneath me. It does not deserve me. If you could realize the current code into physical form, it would not be fit to serve as my bath mat. It wouldn't even be fit as the tissue with which to deterge my eminent posterior. There would be no place for it in my perception; not as far as I could see, smell, or hear. And that is why I leave.

League and I cannot coexist. It defies the natural order. I leave because I only have time for things that are of at least perceptible value when compared to myself, and League no longer falls into that category. If the rest of you feel you are equal to its worth, that is your decision to make. But as for me, I am leaving, and I will consider rejoining if and only if the entire game is reimagined by a team with at least barely lucid talent under halfway reasonable management.

And thus you lost your best support and a tremendous amount of Twitch publicity, but fear not. I'm sure someone will one day climb the ranks to become at least one-one thousandth the tank I was.

Zero Shingetsu2 votes

{quoted}

Let me approach this differently. I was attempting to provide some levity for the sake of letting the community down easy, but if such filthy accusations are going to be cast upon me, I'll speak as is more natural for me.

I was, am, and will be the greatest support this game has ever known. Not a soul will ever surpass me at this role. I became this way after years of dedicated play. I truly loved this game once upon a time.

It has been desolated. The people who currently develop, write for, and illustrate for this game... No. I will not pass such broad judgment. I am more reasonable than this. At the very least, their bosses, the department directors, are absolutely abhorrent at their jobs. Someone at some level of this company has turned it into a disgrace to its former glory, through a clear and undeniable absence of even the most primitive recrephrenic understanding. Their sense of direction is so vulgar, so surfeiting of some self-perceived propitiation, that the game is awash in it and cannot find shore to stand upon. They are sore taxed of acumen, and it does the game no good whatsoever.

Leona with her shield up and nearly 300 armor dies to Lucian in four hits. Yasuo touches Sejuani and she dies instantly. This is not poor balance, this is unforgivably, illimitably defective game design. This is the sort of thing that makes a game unplayable. The difference between a sway-backed steed and a mount with one leg.

While Riot wastes time and wealth on drivel the likes of the fundamentally insulting embarrassment that is K/DA, and really the pro circuit in general, it allows the pillars of its game to go by the wayside in an unprecedented fashion. Never before have I seen such an altitudinous drop in a game's quality, and I place the blame squarely on prioritization. I've been trying to warn them from day one that their cretinous obsession with making League a "sport" would ruin this game, and they have ignored me time and again. Behold now my sagacity.

So do you want my honest opinion, then? I am leaving not because there are better MOBAs. Not because it's time to move on. I am leaving because this game has become thoroughly, assiduously worthless. It is beneath me. It does not deserve me. If you could realize the current code into physical form, it would not be fit to serve as my bath mat. It wouldn't even be fit as the tissue with which to deterge my eminent posterior. There would be no place for it in my perception; not as far as I could see, smell, or hear. And that is why I leave.

League and I cannot coexist. It defies the natural order. I leave because I only have time for things that are of at least perceptible value when compared to myself, and League no longer falls into that category. If the rest of you feel you are equal to its worth, that is your decision to make. But as for me, I am leaving, and I will consider rejoining if and only if the entire game is reimagined by a team with at least barely lucid talent under halfway reasonable management.

And thus you lost your best support and a tremendous amount of Twitch publicity, but fear not. I'm sure someone will one day climb the ranks to become at least one-one thousandth the tank I was.

See this is a copypasta.

CatnipTerminator2 votes

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Is this a copypasta? I can't tell.

I just thought the same lmao

rubberduckie6665 votes

i genuinely cannot tell if this is a shitpost or not.

Thefrostyviking4 votes

OP you should go easy on the bull unless you want a mod to come over calling for you to move this over to meme´s.

300 armor leo dying to 4 hits from a lucian is laying it on wayy too heavily x)

Zero Shingetsu2 votes

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300 armor leo dying to 4 hits from a lucian is laying it on wayy too heavily x)

Oh how I wish it were a lie... Unfortunately, several thousand viewers on Nico Nico Douga can attest to its accuracy. The game is beyond repair.

Thefrostyviking4 votes

[{quoted}](name=Zero Shingetsu,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=phdrAGyP,comment-id=00070000,timestamp=2018-11-28T10:46:08.014+0000)

Oh how I wish it were a lie... Unfortunately, several thousand viewers on Nico Nico Douga can attest to its accuracy. The game is beyond repair.

Please, its not even mathematically possible for it to happen.

If leo had 300 armor and 2 k health then even if lucian has item 3036 then she still has around 66% damage reduction.

Lucian would then need to deal 500 per hit after that reduction, which means that before the reduction his hits would have to deal about 1500 damage.

That, is not even possible anymore, and i am not even sure it has ever been but its absolutely isnt after IE was changed.

Zero Shingetsu1 votes

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Please, its not even mathematically possible for it to happen.

If leo had 300 armor and 2 k health then even if lucian has item 3036 then she still has around 66% damage reduction.

Lucian would then need to deal 500 per hit after that reduction, which means that before the reduction his hits would have to deal about 1500 damage.

That, is not even possible anymore, and i am not even sure it has ever been but its absolutely isnt after IE was changed.

To be fair, it was a steamroll of a game in which we were behind by several levels. But 66% damage reduction is 66% damage reduction. Level differences should not cause that degree of damage after being reduced by 66%.

Thefrostyviking1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Zero Shingetsu,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=phdrAGyP,comment-id=0007000000000000,timestamp=2018-11-28T18:07:10.970+0000)

To be fair, it was a steamroll of a game in which we were behind by several levels. But 66% damage reduction is 66% damage reduction. Level differences should not cause that degree of damage after being reduced by 66%.

.l.......i.......just looked it up.

Are you, for real, complaining about dying quickly do a lucian with full fking build carrying not one but 2 armor pen items+crit items when you youself only had a single finished item aside from boots?

Those boots werent even ninja tabi´s.....

Like that Lucian sold his own boots to get more damage even.

Like with 2 armor pen items, Infinity edge+2 zeal items+ER its no wonder he eats right through your thornmail+chain vest even if you stack aftershock+W at the same time.

Using this as a example for anything? The biggest case of bullshit i have seen in regards to champion balance, i mean aside from someone stating that Ashe was OP back just after the crit item changes.

Zero Shingetsu1 votes

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.l.......i.......just looked it up.

Are you, for real, complaining about dying quickly do a lucian with full fking build carrying not one but 2 armor pen items+crit items when you youself only had a single finished item aside from boots?

Those boots werent even ninja tabi´s.....

Like that Lucian sold his own boots to get more damage even.

Like with 2 armor pen items, Infinity edge+2 zeal items+ER its no wonder he eats right through your thornmail+chain vest even if you stack aftershock+W at the same time.

Using this as a example for anything? The biggest case of bullshit i have seen in regards to champion balance, i mean aside from someone stating that Ashe was OP back just after the crit item changes.

Wait, what? You must be looking at the wrong game.

https://i.imgur.com/fE8KSW7.png

Might want to verify your facts before you viciously attack a living legend.

Thefrostyviking1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Zero Shingetsu,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=phdrAGyP,comment-id=000700000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-11-28T18:57:29.946+0000)

Wait, what? You must be looking at the wrong game.

https://i.imgur.com/fE8KSW7.png

Might want to verify your facts before you viciously attack a living legend.

That is the very same game.

You had a single complete item that wasnt a support one/boots, which is thornmail

And given that the subject was lucian dealing damage the relevant items are armor ones or those that provide some barrier/flat damage resistance.

Thus, you had a single item, thornmail, and a chainvest as well as some health.

Lucian meanwhile had full build by the time you had those, 6 items and he had sold his boots for more damage.

And selling items before you are fullbuild is a terrible idea because you dont get a 100% gold refund for selling them which means you fall behind by as much as two-three kills worth of gold for doing it.

Zero Shingetsu1 votes

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That is the very same game.

You had a single complete item that wasnt a support one/boots, which is thornmail

300 armor is 300 armor, finished build or no, and you were talking about the boots not being Ninja Tabi, which they were for the majority of the game. Besides, throughout the game, I had a total of three completed items.

And given that the subject was lucian dealing damage the relevant items are armor ones or those that provide some barrier/flat damage resistance.

Thus, you had a single item, thornmail, and a chainvest as well as some health.

I actually had item 3190 as well, for most of the game.

Lucian meanwhile had full build by the time you had those, 6 items and he had sold his boots for more damage.

Yes, but I say for a third time, 300 armor is 300 armor. No Lucian build should be able to walk through 300 armor in four hits, I don't care how many items he has.

And selling items before you are fullbuild is a terrible idea because you dont get a 100% gold refund for selling them which means you fall behind by as much as two-three kills worth of gold for doing it.

I'm quite aware of this, but I adapt when necessary. I traded in my Ninja Tabi for Swiftness boots because I was getting kited by their agile damage-dealers and most of the damage I was taking was from burst abilities, and I sold the locket in favor of more armor after their only AP champion disconnected.

You can question me all you like, but it doesn't diminish my career in the least. I know what I'm doing. Riot does not.

Thefrostyviking1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Zero Shingetsu,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=phdrAGyP,comment-id=00070000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-11-28T21:49:21.471+0000)

300 armor is 300 armor, finished build or no, and you were talking about the boots not being Ninja Tabi, which they were for the majority of the game. Besides, throughout the game, I had a total of three completed items.

300 armor reduced by 26% goes down to 222.

222 reduced by 35% is 144.

This is the effective armor you had after all his armor pen, 2 items.

And its still nearly 60% damage reduction.

Which means to kill a Leo with that armor if you had say 2,5 k HP he´d need to do 625 per hit after reduction, or 1562 per shot before it.

Could he have done that with his final build? Nope-

Because to do it he´d need like 750 AD and he didnt have it, heck he had around 330, which means the top damage his autos could do was 660+66 true damage, before reduction.

Which against your armor means he deals 330 in total per hit, even with black cleaver somehow fully stacked on you without hitting you first.

4 x 330 = 1320

Thus, mathematically...... well i think i made my point.

I am aware that you are shitposting but go easy on it, there are people who actually believe that kind of bullshit and it´s causing headaches for everyone else x)

Zero Shingetsu1 votes

He wasn't doing it with autos so much as burst skill damage. I'm gonna have to upload the clip, aren't I? I dread to try using Youtube again...

Thefrostyviking1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Zero Shingetsu,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=phdrAGyP,comment-id=0007000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-11-29T17:38:08.856+0000)

He wasn't doing it with autos so much as burst skill damage. I'm gonna have to upload the clip, aren't I? I dread to try using Youtube again...

So let me guess, rather than 4 hits what he did was to use every ability in his kit to proc his passive and reset his autos essentially firing 6-8+2 damaging abilities shots rather than 4 autos?

That or he ulted first.

And use youtube if you wish or some gif making tool. but mathematically its truly well and impossible for a lucian, even with his full build, to do enough damage to kill a full health leona with 300 armor, completely impossible.

Pika Fox1 votes

As a Leona main, i can confirm its either a lie, or youre not that good. Your kit possesses more than 4 seconds of continuous CC. Ontop of that, Lucian does not build crit primarily, and his main source of damage to tanks is BotRK, which is magic based.

Zero Shingetsu1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=phdrAGyP,comment-id=000700000001,timestamp=2018-11-28T16:08:47.145+0000)

As a Leona main, i can confirm its either a lie, or youre not that good. Your kit possesses more than 4 seconds of continuous CC. Ontop of that, Lucian does not build crit primarily, and his main source of damage to tanks is BotRK, which is magic based.

Leona is also a rather slow champion, and Lucian extremely agile. Miss one E and it's over. You're not getting away and he'll kite you for the next ~12 seconds. Also, the Lucian I spoke of did, in fact, build crit primarily. He didn't even have BotRK. Lord Dom, PD, Shiv, Cleaver, IE and Essence Reaver. Literally didn't even need boots to kite us and he was able to walk through me like I was butter.

I'm not saying Lucian by design is broken. I'm saying that if a Lucian can do this, it basically amounts to an unpatched exploit. No squishy AD champion should be able to four-hit a full-armor Leona.

Pika Fox1 votes

Then the lucian built like garbage and you and your team played poorly. And even with that build, he physically cannot 4 hit you. Especially if its taking him "12 seconds".

Zero Shingetsu1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=phdrAGyP,comment-id=00070000000100000000,timestamp=2018-11-28T18:02:38.526+0000)

Then the lucian built like garbage and you and your team played poorly. And even with that build, he physically cannot 4 hit you. Especially if its taking him "12 seconds".

It's not. That's the point. It took 2.62 seconds, according to the replay footage. My point was if he can put out that kind of damage that fast, then the cooldown for one missed E is beyond fatal.

I suppose it's possible he was cheating in some way, but with what Yasuo and even bloody Miss Fortune can do since the big rune update last season, I'm inclined to believe Riot just has no idea what they're doing.

Pika Fox1 votes

Im moreso inclined to believe you dont. Even if you miss E, you still have R and can flash Q. And you have more than just you around (if hes full build and killing you in 3 seconds, its after 20 minutes and if youre trying to 1v1 him at 20 minutes then idk what to tell you)

Zero Shingetsu1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=phdrAGyP,comment-id=0007000000010000000000000000,timestamp=2018-11-29T00:14:44.615+0000)

Im moreso inclined to believe you dont. Even if you miss E, you still have R and can flash Q. And you have more than just you around (if hes full build and killing you in 3 seconds, its after 20 minutes and if youre trying to 1v1 him at 20 minutes then idk what to tell you)

You can believe what you like. If I believe space aliens have landed and possessed the bodies of South Korea's most influential gamers as a test of how long humans will stare at a game they're not interacting with, it does not make it so.

Your beliefs cannot be proven definitively, as they are matters of opinion, and to argue such matters would be a massive waste of time for both of us.

Pika Fox1 votes

They can physically be proven in game. There is empyrical evidence and MATH here.

Zero Shingetsu1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=phdrAGyP,comment-id=000700000001000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-11-30T03:56:05.900+0000)

They can physically be proven in game. There is empyrical evidence and MATH here.

Here's some math for you: Playing the one role that can't pick a team up and carry it on its back, I have a 63% win rate over the past three seasons (since I've started keeping track). Back in Season 3, before they broke literally everything, I climbed from Bronze V to Gold IV through casual play of Support Rammus. Find me someone else willing to even play Support Rammus.

Here's some more math. I'm really scraping through the logs just to prove my point here. In 35 of the 49 games I streamed last month, I died more than 9 times. In 33 of those games, my teammates died less than 9 times combined, and we won 29 of them.

Fact is, I win games. The support's job is to help his team win. I'm doing my job, and I'm done defending that. You've got no ground to stand on but bias, assumption, and a few out-of-context GG.OP records here. You're done here. Move on. I get that you disagree, I respect it, end of conversation.

Pika Fox1 votes

Fact is no one gives a shit. You claimed lucian can kill leona in 4 autos. He physically cannot unless the leona AFKd the entire game and is still level 1.

Zero Shingetsu1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=phdrAGyP,comment-id=00070000000100000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-11-30T06:56:34.380+0000)

Fact is no one gives a shit. You claimed lucian can kill leona in 4 autos. He physically cannot unless the leona AFKd the entire game and is still level 1.

Fact is I don't give a shit whether or not you think anyone gives a shit. Nor whether you believe what several hundred thousand people saw happen in real time.

Zero Shingetsu1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=phdrAGyP,comment-id=00070000000100000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-11-30T06:56:34.380+0000)

Fact is no one gives a shit. You claimed lucian can kill leona in 4 autos. He physically cannot unless the leona AFKd the entire game and is still level 1.

Here. Did you a solid. https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/Ppygb27j-this-should-never-happen

There. Count 'em. Four autos and two abilities, all in under four seconds. It's not impossible. It should be, I fully agree with that, but it's not.

Pika Fox1 votes

6-8 autos and multiple abilities, all the while you literally just stood there doing fuck all. 4 autos my ass, you do realize lucian has a passive, right?

Zero Shingetsu1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=phdrAGyP,comment-id=0007000000010000000000000000000000000000000000010000,timestamp=2018-11-30T19:06:38.589+0000)

6-8 autos and multiple abilities, all the while you literally just stood there doing fuck all. 4 autos my ass, you do realize lucian has a passive, right?

He attacked me four times. If Lucian can rip off that much damage with four clicks, that's part of the poor game design. I'm not an amateur, friend, I've been playing this game far longer than you have. I know full well what Lucian does. I also know he was never killing Leona in four hits until very recently.

And no, I didn't literally just stand there doing fuck all. I was running to save my inhibitor. Lucian had been playing hyper-aggressive all game and I assumed he'd keep chasing Yorick. I assumed incorrectly. That changes nothing. I don't care if I literally am standing still and doing nothing, four attacks and literally one damaging ability should not kill Leona in under four seconds. It's over 7,000 effective HP melted in 3.8 seconds. That's nearly 2,000 damage per second. If you think that's not absurd, you're a greater fool than the people who balanced the game.

At least they're just inept. You're willfully ignoring a painfully obvious flaw.

Pika Fox1 votes

Again, he hit you with 6-8 autos and 2 of his abilities are offensive. thats 8-10 things that hit you from a late game carry, that took 3-4 seconds to actually kill you. He was literally right next to you and you didnt even bother to press Q on him and auto. You were so far out of position and yet you didnt have the reaction time to press a single button in 3-4 seconds with all your abilities up. You didnt even use your defensive steroid.

He killed you for being stupid, and it took him longer with over 2x the attacks you claim it took him.

TekkenPlayer3 votes

Sasuga zero sama

Flamingo Tango3 votes

I do not know why, but I find this post glorious.

Unemployed Ninja2 votes

I was originally confused, then I looked you up and realized who you are. You are indeed the greatest living legend of our time. Your greatness supersedes just the support role, you were the greatest of greats, so fantastic at support that even the rest of your team was unnecessary for victory in most cases. You will be missed, great one.

Binding Eclipse2 votes

ok bye

Pika Fox1 votes

"Leona with her shield up and nearly 300 armor dies to Lucian in four hits"

Its clear youre not even remotely a good support main.

  1. Leona is an early game support, and lucian an early game ADC. Both fall off late game (leona because she lacks a super defense steroid to deal with the lack of selfish stats support buys give her to main tank, and lucian because he lacks range and is more burst/ability based than DPS) But, in short, lucian physically cannot 4 shot leona at any state of the game, especially if leona plays well. Leona will gladly beat down lucian early game, and late game hes not a late game ADC.

  2. You claim to be the greatest support alive, are not i0ki or aphromoo, and think riot somehow made the support role worse. Have you played any prior season? Have you played ardent meta? Or HoG meta? Have you played "You arent allowed to buy anything but wards and be level 8 at 20 minutes or youre trolling stealing exp" meta?

Zero Shingetsu1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=phdrAGyP,comment-id=000d,timestamp=2018-11-28T16:07:18.065+0000)

"Leona with her shield up and nearly 300 armor dies to Lucian in four hits"

Its clear youre not even remotely a good support main.

  1. Leona is an early game support, and lucian an early game ADC. Both fall off late game (leona because she lacks a super defense steroid to deal with the lack of selfish stats support buys give her to main tank, and lucian because he lacks range and is more burst/ability based than DPS) But, in short, lucian physically cannot 4 shot leona at any state of the game, especially if leona plays well. Leona will gladly beat down lucian early game, and late game hes not a late game ADC.

  2. You claim to be the greatest support alive, are not i0ki or aphromoo, and think riot somehow made the support role worse. Have you played any prior season? Have you played ardent meta? Or HoG meta? Have you played "You arent allowed to buy anything but wards and be level 8 at 20 minutes or youre trolling stealing exp" meta?

Yes. Yes I have. And oddly, I tanked better in those days because the AD wasn't absurd (except for a few gimmick builds that had their own big picture weaknesses). I played in the era of Ardent Meta, but didn't run Ardent because my nuance is beyond the pale of the meta. I have played "nothing but wards" meta, and I built armor before wards, and I did well in that niche.

I don't know who these peons you speak of are, but if I've never heard of them, I doubt they're worth watching. A support is someone who facilitates victory by any means, and sometimes that means having a poor personal KDA. Sometimes that means you're behind in level as you roam to help your jungler in river, or shower the map in wards. I can only assume these two are lauded for their high KDA, as most NA players are, and that in and of itself implies to me they haven't yet approached my plane. True supports excel in the trenches, doing thankless and inglorious jobs. I am a man who has achieved glory doing the inglorious, and that is proof positive of my claim.

Pika Fox1 votes

Aphromoo is literally lauded as the greatest support and shotcaller in the world in the LoL pro and tournament scene, and i0ki is the greatest leona player in the world. They arent praised for their KDA, theyre praised for their mastery of their role.

Zero Shingetsu1 votes

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Aphromoo is literally lauded as the greatest support and shotcaller in the world in the LoL pro and tournament scene, and i0ki is the greatest leona player in the world. They arent praised for their KDA, theyre praised for their mastery of their role.

Ah, that explains why they're meaningless then. Pro gaming means nothing when you're measuring circumspect skill at the game, and this is coming from a tournament player. Once you start playing a game professionally, you lose what makes you unique. You lose the edge that makes you a great player. It becomes practiced. Ritualized. You follow formulae obsessively and forget what it means to improvise. That kind of play falls apart against amateurs, and thus doesn't qualify when talking about the "best player" in a specific game.

This is why I'm no longer regarded as the best Alisa in the world, and rightly so.

Pika Fox1 votes

Because youre not and never were?

Zero Shingetsu1 votes

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Because youre not and never were?

No... Because I started playing professionally... Come on, man, follow the words.

Makarakarn1 votes

You know I feel like this is a prime example of when people say "No body would get banned for toxicity in chat if they'd say it out loud and not in game".

I mean you COULD'VE just quit the game and moved on about your day like a normal human. But for something that's so worthless it doesn't even deserve to be your BATH MAT, you go out of your way to make a post on ITS BOARDS talking about how shit it is.

Understandable, Have a nice day, [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

Zero Shingetsu1 votes

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You know I feel like this is a prime example of when people say "No body would get banned for toxicity in chat if they'd say it out loud and not in game".

I mean you COULD'VE just quit the game and moved on about your day like a normal human. But for something that's so worthless it doesn't even deserve to be your BATH MAT, you go out of your way to make a post on ITS BOARDS talking about how shit it is.

Understandable, Have a nice day, [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

It's not about what it is, it's about what it was. League was a passion of mine and it's been destroyed by poor decisions and ill-placed funds. Consider this post to be an intervention.

And no, nothing I've said was toxic. I questioned Riot's competence and lamented the current state of the game. I said nothing about other players, nor the community at large, apart from stating that each has their own decision to make about whether or not this game is still worth them playing it. I have zero issue with my fellow players.

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