When someone brags they "carried" because of most kills

WutsKraken·Dec 2, 2015·51 votes·3,748 views

Well, time to bring up: Deaths Damage actually dealt Damage taken (Remember who took those hits for you) Healing done (slightly less relevant when there's no real healer on the team and heals are only self-heals :c) Towers killed Gold earned Wards placed

So, who carried? The 18/12/0 Vayne with less damage dealt than the jungle Shen (Our cocky ADC) at a whopping 20k? The said 4/5/30 jungle Shen who ended up tanking over 70k damage like a champ while dishing out 25k himself and stole a baron (Our relentless jungler)? Or the 10/3/20 Gangplank with 60k damage dealt and 5 tower kills (me)?

My money's on Shen c:

83 Comments

ChaosThiefDec 3, 201515 votes

Don't forget assists!

"Oh you went negative, 5/6"

5/6/12. Not a negative score for me.

TheDiffDec 3, 20159 votes

As a support main, i hate it when people are like "stfu braum you're 0/7" Like HELLO!!!! Im 0/7/20. Does it not matter that as a support i set up kills, participate in them, and not steal them unless necessary????!!??! Like that shit pisses me off.

revliledpembrokeDec 3, 20152 votes

And that's when I tell them that, had they not been so stupid, I wouldn't have had to sacrifice my life to save theirs. Or, the alternate case, I wouldn't have tried to sacrifice my life for theirs and they went "Oh, we're going in now?" and walked into a fight with 4 health. Sigh Stupid ADCs.

Aeolian MelodiesDec 3, 201515 votes

Vayne "I carried look at muh numbers." Janna "Not gonna mention that these numbers are due to how untouchable I made you? How much bonus dmg you got from my shield?" Vayne "Nope." Janna "I just wanted to clear that out."

BluePolarizerDec 3, 20158 votes

I get shit like "omg I carried so hard" from ADCs or mids that basically just last hit people while I'm tanking, CCing, and still dealing high damage as a much lower income role (jungle or top).

Yeah it's real fucking hard to last hit people in a role where people literally help you farm.

thebigjamesDec 2, 20157 votes

You both carried. It's a team game. Good job Shen. Vayne show some respect.

Dominick DestineDec 2, 20155 votes

Doing a lot of damage is not indicative of doing well.

Doing damage at key targets, during key moments is far more relevant.

Your argument is awful.

WutsKrakenDec 2, 201531 votes

You are not wrong, however I am not simply looking at sheer damage dealt

Our Shen also tanked over 70k damage and saved our team on multiple occasions and actually stole a baron, I sniped the enemy Graves several times in teamfights. Our Vayne...fed...then last hit shrug

Additionally, you are ignoring tower kills, even if they've been nerfed to the ground, they are key objectives

StoningtonDec 3, 20155 votes

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You are not wrong, however I am not simply looking at sheer damage dealt

Our Shen also tanked over 70k damage and saved our team on multiple occasions and actually stole a baron, I sniped the enemy Graves several times in teamfights. Our Vayne...fed...then last hit shrug

Additionally, you are ignoring tower kills, even if they've been nerfed to the ground, they are key objectives

Fair points. I've seen too many times people get into post game and say, "Hey I did more damage than X, wtf?" And they died 15 times. It's like, yeah, no shiatsu you did the most damage. You constantly fought with no consideration to timing or map awareness and kept dying.

BeldairDec 3, 20154 votes

No love for supports? Did the support do anything to help?

WutsKrakenDec 3, 20151 votes

Yes, Thresh and Shen had our jungle lit up as best as possible while we were hella behind and did very well outside of lane with engagements

In lane was...questionable, but I think he did better than Vayne, not as much as Shen though sadly

fééd l0rdDec 2, 20152 votes

Why do you even care who carried?

WutsKrakenDec 2, 20154 votes

Who says I do? I just felt like bringing it up because of boredom

fééd l0rdDec 3, 20152 votes

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Who says I do? I just felt like bringing it up because of boredom

You care enough to make a thread about it.

WutsKrakenDec 3, 20155 votes

I care more about people's attitude than who actually carry a single game

But I will say, funny posts are nice to get

Sir YamazukiDec 2, 201527 votes

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Why do you even care who carried?

I don't think he does, more of the general attitude people have of saying they are better than everyone, or in the case of a loss, it wasn't their fault, just because they have all the kills even if they contributed little to nothing in actually winning outside of last hitting champions.

WutsKrakenDec 2, 201520 votes

This guy gets it

LhostalisDec 3, 20153 votes

You never put any emphasis on "teams". Probably the most important part of the game. If people would stop elevating themselves based on their K/D ratio and think about how many times the Lulu shielded/ulted the vayne that let her carry. MVP = Good teamwork.

WimbledofyDec 3, 20155 votes

but he did put emphasis on how much shen helped HIS TEAM. "tanking" means nothing if there is noone to tank for, so all those times he mentioned how much tanking shen did and how he got baron, those were all for the team.

DeynaTaggerungDec 3, 20152 votes

I just watched a fight where our thresh a) landed a hook on their adc b) flash ulted to slow and damage the adc to almost dead after he flash/dashed away c) land a 3 man flay and throw confusion to the enemy ranks d) make it out alive with 100 health

We were behind and our adc(me) was dead but because of his heroic efforts we were able to clean up 4 enemies and I realized that nobody but me and maybe thresh realized that he had just won the entire fight for us because he didn't actually get any kills. But they were so disorganized if the enemies hadn't been handed to them on a silver platter it would have been a total rout.

JackMcSnipeyzDec 3, 20152 votes

Fucking support circle jerk threads all over again. Yea you're usefull, no im not gonna kiss your ass for every pull you hit just like i dont get my ass kissed for every skillshot i hit.

WutsKrakenDec 3, 20153 votes

Damn, someone jumping to conclusions and getting mad over something irrelevant

JackMcSnipeyzDec 3, 20151 votes

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Damn, someone jumping to conclusions and getting mad over something irrelevant

Oh no, someone said he carried! Jesus help us if a guy thinks he was usefull. Every thread of this type is whining about how carries (melee and ranged) cant brag, and are all getting kills just because of others. But when a support main or a jungle main brags about some crazy shit he did everyone are going crazy about it. I dont say it should one way over the other, im saying it should go both ways. Yea shen tanked a lot of damage, but without the vayne to damage and kill them, they would've probably escaped your taunt and just outrun shen. Same for every role, support need their carries just like carries need their support, just cause your job is supporting doesnt make you automatically a saint and immune to criticism.

SpoofghoulDec 3, 20154 votes

But that is the thing the Shen outdamaged the Vayne lol

Would have been better game with an extra Shen instead of Vayne guess.

Clown ApocalypseDec 3, 20152 votes

Ironic statement when the role ADC is the only one that comes with someone attached to your ass who watches you farm and protects you all early game. Adc's would be worthless without a support in lane. Just picking a support an adc doesn't like is enough to make them rage, flame, and troll. I mute more adcs than any other class because they think they are the center of the league universe. Every kill is theirs. Oh you're fighting a few steps away from me? Lemme clear this wave first. Oh youre doing dragon....let me get this gromp first. Oh its 35 mins into the game and everyone is teamfighting? Lemme go clear the jungle cuz I need farm. Which is exactly how you end up with 18 kills a big fat ZERO for assists, and the least damage. Popping up at fights after they are pretty much already over and getting last hits.

darkmatchwaldoDec 3, 20151 votes

I mean you should be though considering the adc is never gonna make it out of laning ahead without a good support.

JackMcSnipeyzDec 3, 20151 votes

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I mean you should be though considering the adc is never gonna make it out of laning ahead without a good support.

If the adc left laning phase and lost simply because his support was bad, then it's the support's fault, but who gets the blame? - the carry. It's a mutual goal to win botlane, if your support sucks your adc will suck, simply because it's the supports role to help him get going, (aswell as many other important things, but thats one of them.) Of course though the adc can suck, and in that case its in no way the support's fault.

darkmatchwaldoDec 3, 20151 votes

You're totally right and i agree with you in every sense. It's sad but if you get a Morgana who misses every Q and can't shield worth shit, people are going to blame you as the ad carry for dying. Although to be fair, most of the time you can prevent that death unless it's like a Leona who can just hop on you and zone you from farming at all.

WutsKrakenDec 3, 20151 votes

Not wrong, ironically carries are also hated on when their support fails

This was not the case for this particular game though, Thresh did very well outside of lane and kept the map as lit and clear of enemy wards the best he could

Aeolian MelodiesDec 4, 20151 votes

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Not wrong, ironically carries are also hated on when their support fails

This was not the case for this particular game though, Thresh did very well outside of lane and kept the map as lit and clear of enemy wards the best he could

In what universe.

Meep ManDec 3, 20152 votes

Welcome to the life of a Support with Bard as our host

Vayne: Bard feed, is 0/5 report him Bard: 0/5/34

QuortDec 3, 20151 votes

Sometimes, as Bard, a feisty Meep will take a kill. After that, well... I'm the carry now! >:3

Also, when we're behind, I just tell my team to stall the game because Bard has infinite scaling. I can get to the point where Meeps once shot tanks after about two years of collecting chimes.

Also, I tried Bard top this one time and I did okay. Meep harass and Cosmic Binding disengage all lane phase. Magical Journey and Fate Tempered made escaping ganks very easy. Caretaker's Shrine and Chims served as potent sustain. Just be careful because Bard has very limited wave clear and is unable to effectively push turrets. :3

TheWoollyMammothDec 3, 20151 votes

I play lots of top ad bard. just popping in to let you know, that lack of wave clear is a blessing in disguise. You want the enemy to push in with waves so you can stun them to the creeps. this being said, after 25 meeps and a bit of ad you are a the herald of death. Easily the most hilarious matchups are vs rivens. every time she tries to "dance" towards you. she meets a cosmic binding, her nearest creep. and after her sheild leaves, a meep or 2 to the face. she ults? you ult. She tower dives? You bind her to the turret. then ult yourself and her creeps. Damn near impossible to lose lane against her. late game you are impossible to catch. Portal in. kill the enemy adc from behind. flash out, portal again. wait for someone to follow and ult the ending of the portal. Chime away.

QuortDec 3, 20152 votes

Yep! I was fighting a Tryndamere. If he ults, I ult! If he spins in, he gets bound! Kite around with the slow from your Meeps and you're golden! The only thing I ded differently from you is I built Tanky instead of AD (though I have seen AD Bards and they hurt). :3

SolitairDec 3, 20152 votes

" you didn't help with my penta" says the carry to the Alistar that 1v3'd the enemy team(and didn't die) so that the other 4 on his own team could fight a 2v4 and then clean up the other 3 afterwards

Flawless FetusDec 4, 20152 votes

I play mundo, so I typically have most kills, most damage dealt, least deaths, most gold earned, and most damage taken :^)

FakinawayDec 3, 20151 votes

he is trolling and your sensitive little self took offense and made a little tread to complain a+ 10/10

LhostalisDec 3, 20151 votes

SJW confirmed.

FakinawayDec 3, 20151 votes

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SJW confirmed.

good luck in life, getting upset by trollers

LhostalisDec 4, 20151 votes

Doing pretty well already :P RIT for computer science already got my bachelors. goin' for the masters so I can teach.

WutsKrakenDec 3, 20152 votes

I give you 3/10, you get 1 point for not reading the thread, another for the incorrect assumption, and a third out of generosity for being silliness

BeatzBoyFTWDec 3, 20151 votes

Ugh, Vayne mains. Just when I thought their warding skills & toxic attitude are what they're worst at.

Clown ApocalypseDec 3, 20151 votes

I thought all ADC's beleived they were the most important person in the game.

Ariel the CruelDec 3, 20151 votes

It's a running joke from some data mining statistic a while back (end of S3 I think) that found Vayne was one of the most reported champions.

Clown ApocalypseDec 3, 20151 votes

Sounds about right. I've reported numerous vaynes. Usually its because they try to play like it's late game at level 3 and start raging. It's like...bruh....all you got is autos and no poke....now is not your time to shine. Lol.

WutsKrakenDec 3, 20151 votes

Sad but true...I feel pretty bad for the actually good Vayne mains who have such a tarnished reputation with their champion