Notice out of all the Juggernauts how Mordekaisers the weakest?

Glîtchy·Apr 3, 2017·2 votes·473 views

I mean literally every other juggernaut is at least SOMEWHAT viable,

are all at least decent juggernauts while just seems....well.....

I mean primarily because most tank items are AD + Armor and/HP while very few are AP + Armor being the only 2,

a large percentage of AP tank items are either AP + MR or AP + HP

now yes Mordekaiser uses HP to use abilities but the problem is is that HP on it's own isn't enough, as he doesn't have the damage to use without sacrificing HP, if anything should be done to make Mordekaiser viable again, he really should get armor/MR scaling due to the lack of much defense while trying to build damage.

21 Comments

Big LincolnApr 3, 20174 votes

even though mordekaiser's the only one who gets picked in competitive

doodlebob666Apr 3, 20171 votes

i thought that was only fly quest, and they pretty much only win based off of cheese now, considering the fact clg beat them 2 to 0(Im a big fan of clg, but we can't even do that to Tl or NV) Olaf is currently a pretty strong pick, with trundle also being occassionally used as a counter to tanks top. I would even argue that mundo is more viable in competitive since he atleast is picked on a team that is relatively good (Afreeka)

GlîtchyApr 3, 20171 votes

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even though mordekaiser's the only one who gets picked in competitive

looks towards Mundo and Olaf you sure 'bout that?

Big LincolnApr 3, 20171 votes

my mistake, i don't watch comp so I just scroll the boards for whoever gets picked. they never came up.

that's still better than most of the juggernaut roster, though

GeauxxApr 3, 20171 votes

and morde is only picked by one person as a pocket pick, cant really say that counts.

Edge of DaybreakApr 3, 20171 votes

How many pocket yoricks are there? Being picked even once puts him ahead of a lot of champions.

GeauxxApr 3, 20171 votes

It doesn't put him ahead of anyone more than he already was.

It's like when lucian fell to bottom tier and doublelift picked him anyways. he stayed bottom tier.

Dominick DestineApr 3, 20172 votes

[{quoted}](name=Big Lincoln,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=pVwpvYb7,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-04-03T22:18:35.828+0000)

even though mordekaiser's the only one who gets picked in competitive

OP just got DESTREKT

Handy Sandy Apr 3, 20172 votes

Viable enough to be played by pros tho

TheHappyReaperzApr 3, 20172 votes

I wouldn't say Morde is the weakest Juggernaut. He does do pretty well, compared to most of the Juggernauts. He's also one of the few who are competitively viable. If I had to pick the weakest Juggernauts, it would be either Nasus or Yorick. Nasus for his reliance on time, and Yorick for his weakness anywhere that doesn't have 3-4 graves.

GlîtchyApr 3, 20171 votes

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I wouldn't say Morde is the weakest Juggernaut. He does do pretty well, compared to most of the Juggernauts. He's also one of the few who are competitively viable. If I had to pick the weakest Juggernauts, it would be either Nasus or Yorick. Nasus for his reliance on time, and Yorick for his weakness anywhere that doesn't have 3-4 graves.

Morde literally is the only AP juggernaut (If Skarner's AP then I've only seen pure tank Skarner so not my fault), I mean everyone else has a much more beneficial build option variety, I mean

item 3748 item 3156 item 3025 item 3139 item 3091 to list a few that are defensive and AD supportive, which as we all know, every other Juggernaut's AD.

TheHappyReaperzApr 3, 20172 votes

item 3116 item 3151 item 3027 item 3157 item 3001 to list a few items that are both defensive and AP supportive.

GlîtchyApr 3, 20171 votes

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to list a few items that are both defensive and AP supportive.

Note how I said, "there are next to no AP + Armor items"

TheHappyReaperzApr 4, 20172 votes

To be fair, there aren't any AD and Armor items either.

Edit: Where the hell did you say "there are next to no AP + Armor Items"?

GlîtchyApr 4, 20171 votes

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To be fair, there aren't any AD and Armor items either.

Edit: Where the hell did you say "there are next to no AP + Armor Items"?

item 3050 and item 3157 are the only AP + Armor, literally we have AD/Attack Speed + MR items thus giving AD champs an edge over AP champs

Edge of DaybreakApr 3, 20172 votes

Spoken like a true ahri player.

GlîtchyApr 3, 20171 votes

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Spoken like a true ahri player.

All I said was how Morde needs an ARMOR SCALING buff since it's hard to build AP and Armor on him if you want him to be as effective as the others.

Stars ShaperApr 3, 20171 votes

If you need armor save a slot for item 3742

your defense as Morde is your shield, MR and Armor come to second place

Edge of DaybreakApr 3, 20172 votes

Your thread title "Notice out of all the Juggernauts how Mordekaisers the weakest?" That's like me saying Talon is the weakest assassin when he finally got used in pro play.

Yorick viable? Do you also think ahri is balanced right now?

GlîtchyApr 3, 20171 votes

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Your thread title "Notice out of all the Juggernauts how Mordekaisers the weakest?" That's like me saying Talon is the weakest assassin when he finally got used in pro play.

Yorick viable? Do you also think ahri is balanced right now?

First of all no need to be a jackass, and secondly I am on the fence about Ahri, and 3rd of all, I've seen full damage Yorick sustain for AGES with only an Iceborn gauntlet.

Hong Kong RevoltApr 3, 20171 votes

Sure, winrate isn't everything, but lolalytics has ADC Morde (they list it as support, but they only recently were able to differentiate Ziggs bot from Ziggs support) at a 51% winrate, which is way higher than the 48% most juggs have.