I don't think i ever seen a team with camille not get first blood. simply dash ulting someone has 0 counterplay. enemy jungler is there and your fucked. the fact is am watching a renekton 40 cs ahead get outtraded by a camille makes me want to gouge my eyes out at this inhumanity. she can literally shit on him under tower with 4 items and completely ignore both his damage and the turrets.
MissingKayo3 votespeople still shitposting about camille
holy shit
DrCyanide1 votesGive the man some credit, he did at least say "in pro play". And it's true, she's been Pick-Ban in pro play since her release, being played both as an aggressive Top and as a Support.
Asayake 5150glow1 votesI called it for the first one - Camille ult is insane with coordination.
But Renekton falls off heavily - by 4 items, Renekton is not meant to be a threat to anything. So that's not really a problem.
MunchCrunchLunch1 votesI called it for the first one - Camille ult is insane with coordination.
But Renekton falls off heavily - by 4 items, Renekton is not meant to be a threat to anything. So that's not really a problem.
yeah but my point is that camille shouldnt be going even-outtrading renekton with under 2 items. that makes no sense
MissingKayo1 votesLink the clip.
MunchCrunchLunch1 votesLink the clip.
GCU vs TL game 5. watch the game if you're interested but am guessing you aren't because you insta downvoted
MissingKayo1 votesFirst time Renekton died - No wards or map awareness at all, would've killed Camille but she was lucky enough to have passive come back up at last possible split second Second time Renekton died - Low health, pushing under tower against 3 incoming enemy champions (This isn't the one you meant probably, so disregard this one) Third time Renekton died - Again, awful map awareness and got caught completely out 1v3 anyways
I'm guessing you meant the first time he died. I have no idea what you're talking about. Item difference is tiny. Two Doran Blades on both, 1 Ref. Pot on both, 1 Cloth vs 1 Ruby, and Renekton with T1 boots. Absolutely none of those items are meaningful, and they were both more or less evenly matched.
Also, there was not a single time he died under his own tower. Are you sure that's the right game?
Asayake 5150glow1 votesyeah but my point is that camille shouldnt be going even-outtrading renekton with under 2 items. that makes no sense
Did Renekton eat her E? If yes, then he already should be going even with Camille.
Did he eat the true damage Q? If yes, then he should 100% lose the trade. There is no excuse for Renekton to eat a Camille E with his stun and skill based trading.
Did he blow his damage on Camille's passive shield?
I'd call it a skill match up heavily in Renekton's favor. Camille can't do anything against Ren except E away to avoid the Q (as it continues to drag you even when you're stunned), while Ren can easily outplay many of Camille's abilities.
Maddened King 1 votesIt doesn't make sense, which is why she is still receiving small nerfs. Riot is doing quite a good job with balancing the Pro scene champion pool. They almost have Camille in a good spot.
Sohleks1 votesThe tower gold equalized things and Camille outscales Renekton. Also Renekton bought a QSS.
But yeah her ult is extremely problematic for balance. This is kindred all over again.
Camille can deal with some power reduction on ult and still have it be vastly unique. Either 1 second off or knockback removed or something. Or maybe further rethinking. A way for the victim(s) to break the ult early.
The alternative is to nerf her overall strength until she is like Ryze, somewhat viable in pro play in this case being a ridiculous gank enabler but statistically bad in the hands of the pleb solo queue players. And I don't think she was designed to be trash except for cage'ing people in a ridiculous ult.
Maddened King 1 votesWhich is what I feel they will do. They are generally taking small pokes at her kit. She is supposed to be very good at taking on tanks and squishy targets but not great at taking on bruisers. Her W nerf was to help with her ability against bruisers, and they probably will nerf more things that make her favorable against those match ups.
Maddened King 1 votesCamille with 2 items out scales Renekton with 2 items. Renektons only time to shine would be the laning phase. In the LCS or any pro scene. You don't really get lane dominance since communication is there with the jungler. The only time tops go for all ins is when they can confirm their jungler will be there to help and most likely a good jungler from the opposite side will be there as well. Camille is usually picked because she is great for the 1-3-1 meta since at 2-3 items. No champion can really beat her and her team fighting is incredible.