Honestly, Why do we have auto-fill in lower elo games?

ImperatorVult·Oct 4, 2017·1 votes·389 views

As a Silver player, it's already hard enough just trying to keep my team from starting that tilt into toxicity, and autofill isn't make that any easier. It's also not that uncommon for the person who got autofilled to troll the lobby in effort to make someone else dodge.

With queue times being at most two minutes, there seems little need the autofill feature. I would much rather wait twice as long to find a game then have an instant queue for a lobby where someone got autofilled.

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10 Comments

Spicy RiceOct 4, 20173 votes

Because there's next to no support players in low elo.

And honestly, is autofill really that big of a problem? I get auto filled like once every 20 games or so, and the same is true for most of my friends. And even then, chances are, a teammate is willing to switch with you

Rockem SockmOct 4, 20171 votes

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Because there's next to no support players in low elo.

And honestly, is autofill really that big of a problem? I get auto filled like once every 20 games or so, and the same is true for most of my friends. And even then, chances are, a teammate is willing to switch with you

None of this is true.

Que times have gone up and populations have gone down due to autofill.

If our 1 min 30 que time doubled it still wouldn't matter.

This change was purely made because high elo streamers weee playing hearthstone on stream in-between 30m to 1hr ques.

I have a gone a week without autofill and I have been autofill every two games multiple days in arrow.

Our individual experience is just confirmation bias.

DrCyanideOct 4, 20171 votes

I don't think the decision was purely off of high elo, although that was a big factor. The system was also screwing over Fill and Support Secondary players, causing them to get Support the vast majority of the time (I want to say it was about 90% Support, but I can't find the article right off) For reference, going Fill in Blind Pick lands you as Support roughly 35% of the time. People found this unacceptable and changed what they queued as, resulting in a compounding problem. We saw queue times increase in this phase, and I'm still not sure the damage it cause has been healed.

You can't say that a population decrease is what's caused the queue times to increase, because it would actually speed up queues. Supports would get their roles just as frequently, so the only people who would get frustrated and leave would be Top/Jungle/Mid/ADC players, which would level out the queue for those roles and bring down queue times.

Queue times have likely increased due to the changes they made to prevent Mid/Support from resulting in Support 90% of the time.

Rockem SockmOct 4, 20171 votes

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I don't think the decision was purely off of high elo, although that was a big factor. The system was also screwing over Fill and Support Secondary players, causing them to get Support the vast majority of the time (I want to say it was about 90% Support, but I can't find the article right off) For reference, going Fill in Blind Pick lands you as Support roughly 35% of the time. People found this unacceptable and changed what they queued as, resulting in a compounding problem. We saw queue times increase in this phase, and I'm still not sure the damage it cause has been healed.

You can't say that a population decrease is what's caused the queue times to increase, because it would actually speed up queues. Supports would get their roles just as frequently, so the only people who would get frustrated and leave would be Top/Jungle/Mid/ADC players, which would level out the queue for those roles and bring down queue times.

Queue times have likely increased due to the changes they made to prevent Mid/Support from resulting in Support 90% of the time.

Sorry I didn't clarify. Que times did not change gold and below at all. The actual time to get into a game did due to the sheer amount of dodges.

Rockem SockmOct 4, 20171 votes

Riot is lazy and forces challenger shit down all our throats.

Zero reason Gold and below for autofill.

FooDangOct 4, 20171 votes

Are there even jungle/support mains in low elo?

Paladin 0f LifeOct 4, 20171 votes

Yes

Paladin 0f LifeOct 4, 20171 votes

I was like season 5 and it wasnt hard. You cant play tank sups... i literally remeber going like 8 3 13 as naut support. Built full bruiser but my team alllll fed, adc was trash and we lost cuz i pinged so many open towers but they wanted kills. So carry supports like morg and AD jungs like xin are great at soloing objectives and just splitting to carry the scrubs

RavenHuskyOct 4, 20171 votes

Autofill is a thing across the entire elo range, because no one wants to play support, and when no one wants to play support, everyone has to.

The only way autofill would be turned off was if there was an even split of people queuing up for all five roles all the time, which is never going to happen.

Paladin 0f LifeOct 4, 20171 votes

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