Janna's too gutted after last nerf

ImperatorVult·Oct 6, 2015·7 votes·984 views

I used to love to play Janna, she is one of the few supports that makes you feel like a support since it isn't your damage or tankyness that helps get kills, but after this last nerf to her Q she has become more of a liability anytime I chose her. With the shortened range I have to either rely on luck or get close enough for a pitiful amount of cc/dmg which usually ends with me losing 1/2 hp even with shield. I am left just shielding while the e bot laners are able to bully, while they cannot engage they have little to fear from me.

Compared to the old Janna I loved and could carry a bad adc, playing her now is just depressing with how little she can do.

15 Comments

ImperatorVultOct 6, 20153 votes

made a mistake thinking anything constructive could come from these forums

JamareeOct 6, 20153 votes

...I'm sorry what? No, Janna is still really good and still really strong. God forbid actually having to properly place an AoE knock up to get the full effect. If you think that Q nerf was enough to make her not viable, it just aren't very good at this game.

ImperatorVultOct 6, 20151 votes

Its not this nerf alone it's with all the others, with all the other kits that other supports offer, janna pales. and Yes, I am not good, I am a bronze/silver player, but why have champion that is only viable in high elo's? Its not like she was getting banned cause she was op, or having a Janna was an automatic easy lane win. She still had to depend on her adc and teammates.

JamareeOct 6, 20152 votes

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Its not this nerf alone it's with all the others, with all the other kits that other supports offer, janna pales. and Yes, I am not good, I am a bronze/silver player, but why have champion that is only viable in high elo's? Its not like she was getting banned cause she was op, or having a Janna was an automatic easy lane win. She still had to depend on her adc and teammates.

Yeah, but when she does THAT much, there is no downside to her. Just because you aren't a good Janna and the teammates you get at your elo aren't good, doesn't mean she is bad. Janna is and will forever remain the best disengage support in the game. She hard counters all initiate and when you have a good Janna, if you are a decent ADC, you are more or less immortal. Her shield is still amazing, it gives damage and a shield, her W makes most melees unable to touch anything, and her Q is an AoE knock up, on a basic ability.

This is why we can't balance around low elo, because you guys don't know or play the game well enough to actually be balanced around. It isn't "Oh, maybe I'm bad and need to improve." it is always "I got stomped, my thing is underpowered and that thing is overpowered." Improve your skills, and stop trying to support at that elo, people down there aren't good enough to know how to utilize Janna.

SymbolicFearOct 6, 20153 votes

I feel as though Janna is kinda underwhelming now, I have to agree that since her range was taken from her, it seems as though she was knocked down the list of "Great Supports." By no means is she bad, but she just isn't great anymore. A great support can be overly useful throughout the entire game without actually requiring a good marksmen to support. Braum can protect team mates, engage, and even 1v1 when he is ahead. Thresh has his potential for picking out of position opponents while also having great lockdown with his flay and Ult, and he can save doomed allies with his lantern. Leona, amazing lockdown, AoE stunning Ult, while also dealing moderate damage at low CDs. Then you see Janna, knockup on Q (requires wind-up with moderate cooldowns) W is a very underwhelming slow with moderate cooldown, her E is what makes her so good though, albeit it requires you to have a good lane partner, as it increases your shielded targets AD and can also shield turrets, her ult is a knockback and weak heal for use when losing team fights or to save your lane partner. She is just no where near as useful as she could be. If her range is to stay where it is now, her W needs to be a stun, and her ult needs to heal for just a little more than it does now. Otherwise, there will always be way more efficient options for a support.

ImperatorVultOct 6, 20153 votes

Yes! you say it much better than I did, although I don't think W needs to be a stun, maybe if it hits while they are knocked up it could be a stun. That aside I agree completely

luckmalloryOct 6, 20151 votes

lol u wot?

Doctor JarvisOct 6, 20151 votes

Her Q still goes well past her auto-attack range, and its still useful for counter-engage/fleeing and, I would argue, still useful in lane, though its clear that to be super effective you need to actually charge it. It was a painful nerf (though Im surprised no mention of the R nerf?) but its a workable one I think

ImperatorVultOct 6, 20152 votes

She still has her uses, yes but her kit is a lot harder and less useful for much pass peeling. Compared with the other supports that puts her at disadvantage

Doctor JarvisOct 6, 20151 votes

Yeah, but Janna was STUPID safe before. She had freaking ONE THOUSAND UNITS OF RANGE on her Q before. That thing went way too far and, because of her safety, she could actually build Mejais because of how insanely safe she is. She is less useful, thats the definition of a nerf, but she's still strong

SymbolicFearOct 6, 20152 votes

Janna being safe was the entire point of Janna. She is all about being safe and disengaging. She isn't meant to be in the thick of the fight, she is supposed to stay in the back, throwing Qs and shielding.

MartyrofsandOct 6, 20151 votes

Gonna be honest with all the teams playing juggernauts that wants to just run up to people either via Righteous Glory, Deadmans Plate or Sivir ults it makes me scratch my head why we are not seeing the queen of disengage and kiting seeing more play. Janna makes the lives of Garen/Darius/Skarner/etc a living hell. They want to walk up to you and all you need to do is buy captains boots and stand behind your team and they will be having a very difficult time getting to you and that isn't even taking into effect her Q and R further making their life hell. Buy a Talisman on her and just by having Janna on your team your teams ability to kite these types of juggernauts becomes pretty crazy.

Janna isn't weak right now she just needs to be rediscovered, and it's gonna take someone on the pro scene going "hey maybe every support doesn't need be to be a giant wall of beef with the occasional Morgana/annie thrown in." Played right, and against the right enemy team comps, Janna is a terrifying support to face off against.

JamareeOct 6, 20151 votes

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Gonna be honest with all the teams playing juggernauts that wants to just run up to people either via Righteous Glory, Deadmans Plate or Sivir ults it makes me scratch my head why we are not seeing the queen of disengage and kiting seeing more play. Janna makes the lives of Garen/Darius/Skarner/etc a living hell. They want to walk up to you and all you need to do is buy captains boots and stand behind your team and they will be having a very difficult time getting to you and that isn't even taking into effect her Q and R further making their life hell. Buy a Talisman on her and just by having Janna on your team your teams ability to kite these types of juggernauts becomes pretty crazy.

Janna isn't weak right now she just needs to be rediscovered, and it's gonna take someone on the pro scene going "hey maybe every support doesn't need be to be a giant wall of beef with the occasional Morgana/annie thrown in." Played right, and against the right enemy team comps, Janna is a terrifying support to face off against.

THANK YOU

Hayaishi2Oct 7, 20151 votes

janna is the queen of no interaction and soraka the princess, glad janna is nowhere to be seen, such an annoying champion.

shes still viable and needs no buffs.

alfavhunterOct 7, 20151 votes

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janna is the queen of no interaction and soraka the princess, glad janna is nowhere to be seen, such an annoying champion.

shes still viable and needs no buffs.

Adc Janna with support raka new meta confirmed