Frozen heart has a 10 armour buff on the PBE

kasfas··2 votes·581 views

I think it might not be enough anymore. We needed that 10 armour a long time ago.

At least it's back now.

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Bârd2 votes

Issue with FH is that there's not much reason to build it over other items.

It gives Armor, but no HP. That flaw means that its main selling points are the AS aura and CDR.

The AS debuff is considerable, but the CDR, which is much of the items value, is undercut by just how common that stat is now.

Riot keeps throwing 10% CDR on every other item, so why dedicate an item slot to it on a tank?

The Yetii Rider1 votes

We have a new rune that converts excess CDR to AP. That's going to be useful on tanks.

Bârd2 votes

Depends.

Riot has had two ways of designing tanks, historically.

Either give them h mediocre damage scaling so they don't build damage (Ornn, Maokai, Shen), or give them absurd scaling so they can get the maximum value out of any little bit of AP they get alongside their tank items (Amumu, Nunu, Old Sej).

That rune would be useful on the latter, but awful on the former.

Erockandroll1 votes

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Issue with FH is that there's not much reason to build it over other items.

It gives Armor, but no HP. That flaw means that its main selling points are the AS aura and CDR.

The AS debuff is considerable, but the CDR, which is much of the items value, is undercut by just how common that stat is now.

Riot keeps throwing 10% CDR on every other item, so why dedicate an item slot to it on a tank?

I mean, in the past, I used in as a niche caster item for tanks.

Especially on Sion. It was a rush item against an AD opponent. (against an AP opponent, I would get a specter's cowl, then rush FH)

Though currently, that niche is largely filled by Abyssal Mask. Though it's offensive power is partially wasted on Sion, as a number of his abilibies are Physical damage.

Bârd1 votes

10% amp on the shield bomb and minion grenades is powerful enough.

FireDrizzle1 votes

I've been building adaptive helm vs ap laners.

Hexs Fortune1 votes

They should just reduce the cost to make it more gold efficient without the mana being factored in

Bârd1 votes

I'm pretty sure that would break Ryze again.

Friendly Ram1 votes

I'd love if they just converted half the cdr to armor and maybe buffed the passive.

Acheron161 votes

Great! Now I can ALMOST consider buying this item!

But I still won't because shit like Thornmail and Randuin's Omen are still much more gold efficient and useful.

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