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Remove Surrender

ylneveaH evoL·10/16/2015, 1:13:20 AM·6 votes·899 views

It only brings harm to the game. Before you bring your flurry of downvotes, read through my reasoning why and then decide whether or not you still think that just giving up a game is worth it.

First off, League is a game of mentality. Any professional player or high ranked player will tell you that your attitude and your mentality on the game is a huge factor to your success in League. I have watched video after video and read guide after guide on how to climb solo Q and be the most effective. EVERY single one says that if you are not in the right mentality, DO NOT PLAY. Being on kilter, or "tilt", and having a negative/discouraged attitude is one of the worst things to possess before entering a league game, and during a league game. So how does this tie into the surrender option? Well, quite simply, having a teammate, or being the one on your team, who wants to surrender throws out a negative vibe. Just by the fact that someone feels your team is down far enough that they no longer want to participate or be involved in the current game can discourage other teammates, and more-so for the one who wants to surrender. Because of this negativity being surpressed on your team, players start to perform worse. They are less cautious, they are less ambitious and less aware. It also creates a pressure usually on one or more player to then "carry" the game from the impending defeat. Generally, while a champion can carry a game, League is still a big team game, and having a divided team will almost certainly lead to defeat.

Second point of discussion: Come backs are actually very, very possible. No matter what your circumstance is, there is always a possibility of a comeback. It all depends on how well the enemy team can pressure their lead and how you can take advantages of small mistakes. Quite often, people feel like there needs to be a really big turning point to go from absolute loss to victory. While yes, this can happen, it is more about clinching small advantages that bring you back into the game, and then push strengths to take the victory. Some examples; Clearing vision and laying down your own...if the enemy doesn't know what you are doing or where you are, then they can not pressure you as easily. Likewise, if you have vision on your enemy, you can avoid unnecessary deaths and your team can position to correctly defend and push objectives. Another example would be summoner spells. Knowing which allies and enemies have use of certain spells can also help you edge out small advantages, like collapsing on a champion who doesn't have flash, or defending an ally who doesn't have flash. Avoiding fights if you need an ignite and your mid laner doesn't have ignite up, etc. Knowledge of Teleport has become crucial due to the normality of two teleports per team. The best way to develop a comeback is to keep your team spirited and together. As I said early, League is a team game, and having a united and motivated team is key to taking a victory away from the enemy. Therefore, the option of surrender can only hinder your team, and allows no comeback, because the game is...well...over if you surrender.

Still not convincing? Okay, well, League is now considered an Esport. This new craze has become incredibly popular world wide. I mean, yes, Starcraft and Warcraft started the e-sport craze, and DOTA really exploded it, but LoL has taken it further than anyone could have imagined. With that being said, there is not a single sport, or e-sport that matter, that has a surrender option, yet League does. To me the surrender option is very classless. Imagine if a football game just ended at the second half because the other team was up 3 touchdowns. Or if a hockey game ended at the end of the second period because the other team just gave up and didn't want to play anymore. This never happens, because the viewers want to watch the entire game. Right to the end, you cheer for your team and you hope for the major comeback. While solo Q is not an e-sport nor does it have a viewer base at all, it still to be noted that the best of the best never give up hope in any sport, therefore, learn from the best and do not give up. However, I have seen teams surrender in pro play and to me, it is very disrespectful, saying that the other team is not worth your time or that your viewers are not worth time either.

And my last concern for having the surrender, is the fact that you can learn so much about the game and about your champion by playing out the entire game. Yes, you might get 100% demolished, but at least you are learning more and more about how your champion works from behind. The most brilliant minds known to man have claimed that you can only learn from your mistakes. Therefore, by playing out a game where you lose, sometimes even miserably, you are still learning from your mistakes. Lets look at some examples here: THe Late Steve Jobs (rest in peace) was fired and kicked out of Apple. He then founded a company called NeXT which was later acquired by Apple, and Steve Jobs worked tirelessly and proved his brilliance and then reinvented Apple into what it is today. What if he just gave up after being fired from Apple? Walt Disney was fired from a newspaper company because he...get this..."lacked creativity". Arguable the most creative person known to man to this date, was told he lacked creativity. So imagine if he took that personally and just gave up his pursuit of film design? Why should you as a devoted and passionate League player just surrender when you could have the potential in you to become the reason for a successful game. Bill Gates was turned down many times and his original operating system was widely frowned upon by computer enthusiasts and even IBM, until his persistence lead him to strike a deal and become one of the wealthiest humans alive.

All in all, don't give up, don't surrender. I would love to see the surrender option removed because of my reasons stated above. It is super frustrating just knowing that many of my games have been thrown away because of this option to just end the game. Until the Nexus falls, I will fight...

TL;DR, just read it, do you honestly have anything better to do?

13 Comments

Cibreca10/16/2015, 1:35:00 AM3 votes

Surrender is a great option. But just an FYI. Chess has a surrender option (tipping over your King.) Sometimes a game is lost. And it's on to the next one.

Personally I don't like playing with feeders, or bigots, or haters, or spammers, or incredibly angry people.

And it's worst when we are losing.

Arcane Azmadi10/16/2015, 2:29:35 AM2 votes

Long post. Didn't read a word of it, because it's stupid. Shut up and stop whining.

DrNova10/16/2015, 1:29:25 AM2 votes

TL;DR;bad idea no matter your logic

Streeton10/16/2015, 1:37:52 AM2 votes

.... how does one go on your level?

thepay310/16/2015, 1:25:26 AM2 votes

okRammus

JRobin3110/19/2015, 9:56:22 PM1 votes

I have to disagree. Surrender votes are important to the game because every person should decide personally how to play. Some people just don't want to play through a game if a they lose lane. Other people argue that surrender votes help them end games with trolls or afks or other situations they evaluate as lost causes. It is not for you or I to decide for them what constitutes a lost cause or to decide for them that they should play out a game because it is fun or to gain the experience of playing it out. If they want to surrender it is good that they have that option.

What I object to strongly is that because of these players I have to have a pop up on my screen asking me if I want to surrender. To me this is like when I visit a website and annoying ads pop up on my screen. I disable that **** and I want the ability to disable surrender votes from my games. Surrender votes every 2 minutes that voted 1 yes to 4 nos again and again and again? Can I please disable that ****? Please? I am happy typing out /surrender in chat if I need to vote yes. I don't need a popup. I don't want a popup. A popup is spam. Please let me disable this annoying popup. I don't care about having it's size reduced. I want to be able to remove it from my screen entirely. I respect the right of other players to surrender. Please respect my right to not have them popup on my screen.

KVbqbFsC8e10/19/2015, 10:05:36 PM1 votes

They should buff surrender. Should be able to surrender sooner if people are AFK and a 3/0 vote shouldn't "fail" when two AFK people haven't voted.

Linthe10/19/2015, 10:07:25 PM1 votes

No.. surrender is fine as is..

i don't want to get stuck in a 60 minute death fest because MMR (or an AFK or a troll or a smurf group) jacked up my evening and the other team is a bunch of toxins who refuse to end because they think it is more fun to pretend they are playing a bot game.

Baunjo10/16/2015, 1:47:59 AM1 votes

There is 2 sides to the puzzle here.

On one hand you know for a fact that you are basically fucked so there's no point in trying to keep defending towers. Surrender will save time and frustration.

However way too often people decide early on that they just are not going to try any more and that they can just surrender at 20. Now THAT sucks.

NTSable6410/16/2015, 1:51:14 AM1 votes

disagree i mostly play ARAM (surrendering in ARAM? blasphemy!) doesn't matter if i'm on tilt or not i think its just a general feel of the match sometimes ill tough it because it feels right other times i want to surrender because i don't want to push minions for another 5 - 15 minutes to lose and then spend another random amount of time dealing with people dodging games or that 1 player who is too late/doesn't join the que when i could have had most of that stuff out of the way from just surrendering sooner.

most of the time the vote never passes but id much rather surrender than leave a game (only time i've disconnected is from my net going out or from being afk having to help carry things up stairs)

UberAffe10/16/2015, 2:08:04 AM1 votes

I would completely agree with this except for one thing, assholes. There are some games that I leave hoping that I will never come across that person again. Those are the only games I vote yes on and I am willing to accept a few extra losses for the ability to shorten my time with these people.

Whatevsman9710/17/2015, 8:08:45 PM1 votes

Right, remove the thing that can save people time and from getting banned when they don't want to play anymore, when they're getting stomped, when they have an emergency and need to leave, etc.

"Until the nexus falls I will fight." Excuse me, I need to go throw up. Seriously, that was the cheesoest thing I've read today, what shonen anime did you dredge that from?