Give LeBlanc a slight delay on returning to W

ylneveaH evoL··55 votes·4,057 views

Make it so LeBlanc cannot return to her W immediately, give it a 0.5 second delay. This way we have a decent small chance to CC her before she slams us for over half our health with no time to return any damage/cc her before she just ports back.

53 Comments

Fuaztin31 votes

So LB has one strength and it's too much for you to handle? You should probably uninstall.

AquariusGine16 votes

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So LB has one strength and it's too much for you to handle? You should probably uninstall.

Agreed. This is all she is left with right now, people should stop coming up with suggestions to nerf champions out of viability

Nucleophilic atk4 votes

"All she is left with is the ability to nuke you for over half your health with no chance to hit her back" she is soooo weak.

Not even siding with OP, but your post made me sad.

AbrahamBaconham8 votes

Or perhaps...

We take Riot's DFG removal logic and apply it to this situation. Nerf an extremely one-sided and rather bullshit part of her kit, so they can buff the rest of it.

ylneveaH evoL3 votes

Her strength is her ability to instantly burst anyone. But people play her as a poke style, because of the safety of immediately popping back to her port. It also gives her an insanely strong laning phase, which is my main issue with it

1st HanarSpectre7 votes

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Her strength is her ability to instantly burst anyone. But people play her as a poke style, because of the safety of immediately popping back to her port. It also gives her an insanely strong laning phase, which is my main issue with it

You already have the opportunity to CC her. Her dash is not instant, you can throw your cc as she moves forward and she will arrive to her destination stunned. Then you can wreck her since she has negative HP.

AdmiralNemoSomeN2 votes

this requires korean reflexes

FoggyPaws3 votes

then step up your game

Ratbert1 votes

no it doesn't If you can catch a ball you can do this.

Gavran1 votes

To add to this for those who would rather get better than get things nerfed, her dash is a DASH, not a blink, she can be hit in it and it can be interrupted by many things. Not an option for every champion ever, but it's one of the things that makes for example Syndra a good pick against her.

Taryn1 votes

Sona If only more people thought like you.

Starrow2 votes

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So LB has one strength and it's too much for you to handle? You should probably uninstall.

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FistOfSharkiesha2 votes

The problem isn't that it's OP, it's uncounterable and toxic.

DrCyanide17 votes

Veigar I say we just delete her! uses ultimate

straight4free15 votes

This would make her worthless.

Give her the silence back, then, if you want to do this.

A Slime Appears5 votes

I'd take that trade.

Lusth6 votes

I have a better idea:

Stop being bronze

pWasHere1 votes

It isnt like LeBlanc is picked or banned in every competitive game ive seen or anything. Nope, just a pubstomper.

Ratbert4 votes

Only if you do the same for zed, who blinks. You realize that while lb is dashing, she can be hit and cc'd? Her movement is linear too.

DarthSpectrum1 votes

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Only if you do the same for zed, who blinks. You realize that while lb is dashing, she can be hit and cc'd? Her movement is linear too.

Zed's shadow does have a travel time. While he can blink instantly if the shadow is already in place, he cannot activate the 2nd W right after the first.

Brindale1 votes

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Zed's shadow does have a travel time. While he can blink instantly if the shadow is already in place, he cannot activate the 2nd W right after the first.

You can't cc his shadow when he throws it out though

Baculus4 votes

Chill, she's losing DFG

Giovarco3 votes

Delete this brainless champion.

Bad Karma1 votes

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Delete this brainless champion.

LeBlanc is one of the hardest champions of the game. If you consider her a "brainless champion", after what you stated, 95% of the champions in league are brainless. Only frustrated because you can't play against her?

Giovarco1 votes

I never said she's OP. I know how to counter her: champions with waveclear and preferably without skillshots. With that comment I just wanted to say that playing against LB is objectively frustrating. She has something like 20 seconds of CD on her W, which is high, but she can do psychological terrorism so easily. I don't know If you know what I mean.

Erockandroll3 votes

Odd, Last time I played LeBlanc, the enemy lulu, had no problem Polymorphing me before I can teleport back.

A Superb Villain3 votes

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the enemy lulu, had no problem Polymorphing me before I can teleport back.

Attagirl.

TheKingDodo2 votes

But then how would she clear in sieging situations?

MEMEME6701 votes

The same way most champions in this game do? Not well.

AHeroNamedHawke1 votes

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But then how would she clear in sieging situations?

The assassin wouldn't clear

That's the point

Paradise Proxy2 votes

That change probably won't be enough. She'll still be ridiculously slippery and have a retarded early/midgame.

I say revamp her whole kit.

Regina George2 votes

You must be super bad if you think she's that much of a problem.

Paradise Proxy2 votes

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You must be super bad if you think she's that much of a problem.

You need to be pretty stupid to think that level of damage and mobility is healthy on a champion.

Bad Karma1 votes

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You need to be pretty stupid to think that level of damage and mobility is healthy on a champion.

It is. She has nothing else. Almost no utility, squishy, falls off late game and the most counterplay in the game.

Paradise Proxy1 votes

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It is. She has nothing else. Almost no utility, squishy, falls off late game and the most counterplay in the game.

I bet you're one of the people that thinks Zed needs nerfs because he doesn't need to commit to a fight.

I Am Become Deft2 votes

Yah, because someone thinks a champion should be reworked they must be bad at the game /s. Even if they were wrong in every way, it wouldn't necessarily correlate to their skills at the game.

Strzyga2 votes

Kassadin can't do it anymore, why should lb get to?

Raith Alghul1 votes

I thought she already had one, but that might just have been lag :/

Rikari1 votes

sure lets have another melee mage Nidalee if anything should be nerfed maybe the damage,cooldown or ability to ult after it.

It Is I Emoto1 votes

i wont support this idea, except if she gets an buff on her other spells (utility mostly) since she has lost her silence, there is so much more counterplay if you cc her. there is no exception. if you are clever enough, you can cc her to her mark on the ground, making her easier to kill and probably force her r or flash too.

SleepyLionCub1 votes

Eh, there are plenty of champions that do something really huge very suddenly, and without warning. Veig can stun your whole team, Annie can too, and Zed can poof back to his shadow.

Shaco can poof away, and reappear as 2 of him. And WW can instagib someone at the press of a button.

its not like leblanc is the only champion who does things instantly to get away, or attack.

f00G3MxfPP1 votes

I'm hoping that riot has not gotten to working on LeBlanc yet. She definitely needs nerfs especially considering she got a hidden buff with all the other midlane champions nerfed. She already is top 10 this patch. Probably top 5 next as many of the top 10 champions got nerfed. I agree with this suggestion. Her lack of counterplay is especially apparent with the rise of toplane leblanc (played by pros at challenger level). She can just abuse her range, dash in and out, keep melees at range, without any sort of counterplay whatsoever). It is more difficult to cc her than to cc the usual champion, and is impossible to punish her for the free damage if your champion lack hard cc or has a cast time on the hard cc. If they're hitting so many earlygame dominance lane bully champions so hard, I see no reach why leblanc should be left alone.

BrutalCabbage1 votes

To be honest they could just nerf her damage.

xLegendary Troll1 votes

Pick Lissandra

  1. Wait for her to W in.

  2. Press W

  3. ???

  4. Profit.

Ajibat1 votes

Honestly, as a frequent LeBlanc player, I'm not in support of this nerf. Enemy champions already have the opportunity to use cc effects on LeBlanc as it is, and it's quite effective if used properly. LeBlanc relies heavily on her mobility and her ability to deal quick damage in stressful situations such as team fights.

Let's take a look at LeBlanc as she is right now, as played in Summoner's Rift. LeBlanc is not a viable choice if early-game farming is taken into account, as she doesn't have the attack speed or damage from her auto attacks to clear those minion waves without wasting her W. LeBlanc's E attack is basically useless throughout the early laning phase unless she can get a clear shot on you without landing on a creep. Most of the time, unless it's an extremely rare circumstance, your Q is not a viable choice for poking unless you intend to follow through with your distortion.

With that being said, that actually leads you to the only viable choice LeBlanc has throughout the early game laning phase, distortion. Distortion basically serves as the only possible way to keep up when it comes to cs-ing, and it's her main source of damage through team-fighting, and in escaping. As stated by other posters, there is opportunity to use crowd controlling effects on LeBlanc mid-distortion, so to put a cooldown on LeBlanc's distortion while there are already ways to stop her in place would essentially ruin the entire part of her kit that makes her a unique, and intelligent choice for Summoner's Rift.

Quort1 votes

I like to play Vel'Koz against her... push the waves so she can't roam or is forced to use her Distortion on clearing minions, poke her from a large range, and, if she manages to get close enough for the usual Q>W combo, I drop my Tectonic Disruption on the return pad so she either teleports back and gets stunned (and eats my damage) or is forced to wait a second before returning (and eats my damage anyway). Of course, no strategy is perfect, but this has worked relatively well for me.

Renegade Angel951 votes

Or you hit her in the mouth with a stun. It's easy to anticipate when she is gonna distortion. And she is really squishy. Either hit her when she lands next to you or as Xerath or Ziggs hit her when returns. Throw a statchel charge and/or a minefield on her marker. Or as Xerath land a point blank stun, charge your Q and aim it for the marker and not her. Or use your E. And if you miss then it's just her getting the best of you.

Pozio1 votes

Protip: If you know she's about to use her W, target her before she does that, and your skill will go when she's close enough.

SomeAsianChigga1 votes

literately any cc against her can screw her up really bad most of my mid laners dont have cc but if a jungler has cc to lock down her like Vi its over for her

pWasHere1 votes

I think this change is dumb and would be overnerfing, but everyone who is saying that she is just a noob problem is clueless.

Also, I feel like LeBlanc is one of those champs whose mains love to say how hard she is. I have played her and I'm calling bullshit.

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