Riots tank decision

I NEED HEALlNG·Apr 8, 2017·11 votes·881 views

If they want less health and more armour, then are they gonna nerf lethality? What's the point of more armour if it's gonna be totally ignored anyways? Are they trying to force lethality back into meta? Also the Randuins change, the no crit reduction, what am i supposed to do against Adc like Caitlyn who are able to destroy easily with crits and lethality? I think this should be addressed to the community.

EDIT: Also, i meant % pen not lethality. Sorry. I'm sure you could've guessed but my bad.

22 Comments

Big LincolnApr 8, 20178 votes

armor counters lethality

% pen is what's going to be stronger

I NEED HEALlNGApr 9, 20171 votes

OH! % PEN! I GET IT NOW

Big LincolnApr 9, 20171 votes

you mixed them up, lethality is just flat armor penetration

EedatApr 8, 20178 votes

Lethality is complete garbage against armor

Armor hard counters Lethality

I NEED HEALlNGApr 9, 20171 votes

I thought lethality ignores armour? How is that a counter? If it ignores 60% or armour?

EedatApr 10, 20171 votes

Are you nuts? You have to build 10k gold worth of items to get 45 Lethality. That 45 Lethality is almost completely voided by a 800g item 1031

I NEED HEALlNGApr 10, 20171 votes

You can calm down nerd. As i explained in an edit i misunderstood % and lethality.

DauthauApr 8, 20173 votes

The loss of crit reduction is highly in favor of Yas and every ADC. What are you doing Riot?

ArakadiaApr 8, 20171 votes

I can see it now:

item 3046 , item 3031 , item 3156 , item 3026 , item 3072 , boots.

% damage reduction, armor, life steal, shields, wind walls, mobility, invulnerability, magic resistance, and magic shields to keep him alive. And no way to reduce crit attacks.

I NEED HEALlNGApr 9, 20171 votes

GA doesn't revive

ArakadiaApr 9, 20171 votes

Yeah it does. Explain, because I just checked PBE. And the live servers still have it.

I NEED HEALlNGApr 10, 20171 votes

Oh god no It didn't say so in tooltip when i checked nor did it

SzGamer227Apr 8, 20172 votes

Lethality is flat pen, so it's more effective against targets with less armor.

Adding more armor to items makes Lethality weaker.

I NEED HEALlNGApr 9, 20171 votes

I thought lethality scales with lv now? If it was just flat or something why was it such a craze 2 patches ago

SzGamer227Apr 9, 20171 votes

It's flat armor pen that scales with target's level.

"Flat" armor pen as opposed to "percent" armor pen.

Flat reduction means you subtract a flat number from the total, whereas percentage reduction scales with the total (so a larger total means more reduction).

15 Lethality reduces the armor of a level 3 champion by 10.

If you take away 10 armor from a squishy level 3 marksman with 37 armor, they are left with 27 armor, causing them to take 7.9% increased damage.

If you take away 10 armor from a level 3 juggernaut with 45 armor, they are left with 35 armor, causing them to take 7.4% increased damage.

30 Lethality reduces the armor of a level 18 champion by 30.

If you take away 30 armor from a squishy level 18 marksman with 90 armor, they are left with 60 armor, causing them to take 18.8% increased damage.

If you take 30 armor from a level 18 juggernaut with 100 base armor and 100 bonus armor, they are left with 170 armor, causing them to take 11% increased damage.

45% bonus armor reduction reduces bonus armor by 45%.

If you take away 45% of bonus armor from a juggernaut with 100 base armor and 100 bonus armor, they are left with 145 armor, causing them to take 22.4% increased damage.