Why is Zed being buffed? Just because llStylish want that champion to be broken?

taleofsonata·Feb 7, 2018·16 votes·2,816 views

Because Zed is such a gimmicky champion, the reason why he doesn't want to play Zed is because all zed does in lane is QQQQQ until the target is low and then kill it. Compare him to Leblanc where she has to go in and out and kite with soo many potential around it. Zed is just a Xerath that has a very booring early game, this champion doesn't need buff he needs clear windows of power and weakness. He is the only assassins with a Spamming Artillery gameplay.

Zed should stay untouched until the meta shift to him.

35 Comments

Ahri BakaFeb 7, 201812 votes

Do you wanna know why? Because some people are non-stop circljerking about they can't kill the enemy adc , because they think they counter the adc and they don't need to outplay them , they expect Assassins to go outwin the bot lane , they want the assassins to be able to 1 vs 2 the enemy's bot lane , which is nonsense, the support was meant to be there to counter those assassins , but no , they expect to win a solo fight against 2 players , Zed doesn't need to spam q to kill a mage in lane , a single Q or 2 Qs then go all in and that mage is a free kill , I don't play Zed that much , but when I do , I completely get a 1 sided lane with no counter play , honestly Zed against a mage is a free win Just laned against Zoe and bursted her everytime, even before Her E make me sleep Like , Zed only needs item 3134 , and if he has ult , the enemy is a free kill I don't care about bot lane , but as a mages main , I already suffer from Zed , the buff will make it harder to play against him .

KaiokoFeb 7, 20188 votes

His ult is being compensated because stopwatch is a free item whereas it didn't exist before.

taleofsonataFeb 7, 20188 votes

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His ult is being compensated because stopwatch is a free item whereas it didn't exist before.

If his ult is being compensated because of stopwatch then why is Karthus not being compensated because of stopwatch? Don't blame an item for the balance of a champion, either nerf the item but don't buff the champion.

OatheSwornFeb 7, 20184 votes

Because it hits everyone on the map...only counter-play is to turn gold or spell shield. He can also use it while "dead" and because he is untargetable during his passive, you cannot stop it.

SirsirFeb 7, 20183 votes

Thats... just not why. Early game CD where stopwatch is most relevant is still the same. They aren't going to comp ONE champion over a single use zhonyas

taleofsonataFeb 7, 20183 votes

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Thats... just not why. Early game CD where stopwatch is most relevant is still the same. They aren't going to comp ONE champion over a single use zhonyas

It's not 1 champion, it's Many champion that relies on all in + Karthus. Stopwatch early game is very powerful against anyone.

LordGeovanniFeb 7, 20181 votes

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His ult is being compensated because stopwatch is a free item whereas it didn't exist before.

Cant wait for the rest of the game to get that compensation to becuase it didnt only effect his ult right?

OatheSwornFeb 7, 20184 votes

Zed is not boring, he has tons of outplay potential which is why I play him.

taleofsonataFeb 7, 20187 votes

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Zed is not boring.

Did you see what Zed does early game? QQQQQQQQQQ, that's what he does it's safe and it does decent damage.

CrystalyskFeb 7, 20184 votes

Well, what does LeBlanc do early game?? Spam QQQQ until she hits 6 so she has kill potential.

taleofsonataFeb 7, 20183 votes

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Well, what does LeBlanc do early game?? Spam QQQQ until she hits 6 so she has kill potential.

Her Q by itself doesn't do damage, she has to use another spells and she has the option of using W or E aswell as she is telegraphing when she use her Q meaning she is in range where you can trade against her.

CrystalyskFeb 7, 20184 votes

And Zed's Q does damage right? It barely hurts if you stand behind minions. You just have some sort of bias with the champion. And it didn't get any buff.

taleofsonataFeb 7, 20189 votes

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And Zed's Q does damage right? It barely hurts if you stand behind minions. You just have some sort of bias with the champion.

It's spammable it doesn't have downside and aswell as being his wave clear. I think you have some sort of bias protecting that champion.

CrystalyskFeb 7, 20185 votes

He only got his R CD reduced by a bit and yet you are here claiming he got huge buffs that will break him, Zed is not even good in the current meta and this won't even help him much.

taleofsonataFeb 7, 20185 votes

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He only got his R CD reduced by a bit and yet you are here claiming he got huge buffs that will break him, Zed is not even good in the current meta and this won't even help him much.

That's giving him Power, this champion has CDR built in everysingle item in his kit. Reducing his R late game power is a huge buff to him, since he might be able to R twice in an extended teamfight. His R is basically extremely hard to counter if you don't itemize against him late game.

OatheSwornFeb 7, 20182 votes

In his core items, yes, but that is why he has energy. A Zed at 40% CDR can throw W>E>Q -Pause- E -Pause- Q. Even then he has to wait for CDs (I admit short but still enough time to walk out of shadow E range and sometimes Q) and energy to build up again. It's very important for Zed players to watch the energy bar because there are many cases where they get away because you did not have enough energy for a spell.

OatheSwornFeb 7, 20182 votes

From my memory his ultimate can go to the lowest point of roughly 40ish seconds. Teamfights generally don't last 40 seconds but even if it does, it is likely Zed won't be able to deal his maximum damage because of energy. Zed's energy is what encourages people to target one person at a time because unless the enemy/enemies is/are low, he won't be able to spare any energy for a second or third person. Of course, there are videos on YouTube of Zed getting solo multi-kills but these are very rare due to the situation, which champions are on the enemy team and the skill of the Zed player.

OatheSwornFeb 7, 20182 votes

The damage it does at level 1 after passing through another enemy is roughly around 40, compared to the damage the first target takes which is roughly 70. The CD is around 7 seconds with 0% CDR (don't quote me I'm saying this from memory so it may be wrong) so the chances of the enemy simply dodging the Q, taking reduced damage, or retaliating sort of balance it out. Also, at level 1, Zed is usually forced to play safe against most mid laners and can with his shuriken.

OatheSwornFeb 7, 20182 votes

It is not safe...it is a skill-shot which can miss, same as most other mid laners. But for other mid laners, they don't get the reduced damage when their ability passes through a target (ex: Ziggs Q, Syndra Q, Xerath Q, Lissandra Q).

OatheSwornFeb 7, 20186 votes

For bad players, Zed is hard to play around but if you are a decent or experienced at the game, you would know his Q has a slight cast time where you can dodge or retaliate if you are fast enough. The only thing I have to say about Zed is that Duskblade is completely broken on him against squishies.

taleofsonataFeb 7, 20183 votes

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Against bad players, Zed is hard to play around but if you are a decent player, you would know his Q has a slight cast time where you can dodge or retaliate if you are fast enough. The only thing I have to say about Zed is that Duskblade is completely broken on him against squishies.

I don't think the player skill should be mentioned in that, if you look at faker Zed for exemple. I think it's more about the match up than player skills.

OatheSwornFeb 8, 20181 votes

In some cases, yes, match ups can determine whether you win or lose in lane. Some particularly difficult match ups for Zed in my opinion are Diana, Fizz, and Yasuo but skill can affect the outcome as well.

OatheSwornFeb 7, 20182 votes

Sure Zed can use Q frequently but because most mid laners are ranged, everytime Zed goes to cs they pop an ability and 1 or 2 autos on him.

AninLegions777Feb 8, 20181 votes

Spamming Q to CS leaves you without energy LUL.

Zed geniusFeb 7, 20184 votes

What do you mean why? The new ap items are coming out giving a lot of strength to ap mid laners. Why would you ever play zed over any other champion in the game, when he is already not that strong?

paisyFeb 7, 20184 votes

Spamming artillery? If you considering him using his full combo every 20 seconds spamming artillery then lol

AbibyamaFeb 8, 20183 votes

Oh, is it time for the Zed QQ?

InfernapeFeb 8, 20182 votes

Can I QQ as someone that occasionally plays Zed from the perspective of Zed?

Here I go...

Fuck Stopwatch.

bbQsauçeFeb 7, 20182 votes

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2Charmnot2CharmFeb 8, 20182 votes

It's honestly sad that even with stopwatch rune being a thing now, low elo players are still complaining about zed when he has been garbage for a long time already.

AninLegions777Feb 8, 20181 votes

This! People don't put effort into learning simple counters for Zed. They rush Morello and complain when they die.