Why would we nerf Redemption/Locket?

chipndip1·Dec 27, 2016·1 votes·502 views

I mean, what else is your support going to build?

8 Comments

Mecha MaIphiteDec 27, 20163 votes

item 2045 item 3092 item 3401 item 3800 item 3110 item 3109 item 3504 item 3050 item 3060 item 3512 item 3222

And still item 3190 item 3107 if they aren't nerfed too hard

chipndip1Dec 27, 20162 votes

That isn't bad and is fun to use.

Cause we know no one's building Glory, Banner, Zeke's, Frozen, or ZZ as a support unless it's a very rare occasion, and Crucible is entirely necessity cases only.

Leaves your gold items, vision, and Censer. Tada...

EndlessSorcererDec 27, 20161 votes

I like building Zz'rot on a support.

It lets me keep a side-lane pushed so my teammates don't have to deal with it (often getting caught out or leaving us 4v5 in the process).

It helps me clear waves and pressure towers too.

Fiasco3Dec 27, 20161 votes

item 3107

PrinceOfStormsDec 27, 20161 votes

Because you can turn literally any champion into a support by building Locket and Redemption. Yes, even Support Vayne

VoraciousXDec 27, 20161 votes

ZZrot can actually be really fun to build. Place it somewhere, get your whole team to wait in the bush that you placed it in, and maul them as they come for it. That sounds like a fun item to me(I build it on Evelynn occasionally just for the surprise attacks).

Edge of DaybreakDec 27, 20161 votes

Fun is subjective and toning down something doesn't mean it will be bad after. Having something be seen as mandatory purely because of it's strength isn't great because it more or less means that support players are pigeonholed into building them or you probably get flamed for it. It probably doesn't matter to most people but I have games were people will attack the support because they did not build locket and redemption. On top of that you have sightstone as well. It's gotta be awful to be a support player but locket and redemption atm are a little ridiculous.

chipndip1Dec 27, 20161 votes

Issue: All the other support items suck, are mandatory, aren't really fun to build and use, or a combination of the three.

When's the last time someone was talking about the riveting experience of using Crucible? They need more and better items while they're in the process of nerfing these items. Maybe scrap some bad items and replace them with new ones.