So I got this idea for Karma's W while I was trying to sleep :p

Hochelaga··2 votes·935 views

So I had this idea that came up to me while I was trying to sleep :p . So why not just get it out of my head.

Karma's W would have a new effect that could be used both defensively or offensively. This skill is inspired by her old W.

Focused Resolve ACTIVE: Karma forms a tether between her and the target enemy champion or monster, dealing them magic damage over 2 seconds at 0.66-second intervals and granting True Sight icon true sight of them for the duration.

MAGIC DAMAGE: 60 / 110 / 160 / 210 / 260 (+ 90% AP)

If the target does not break the tether by moving out of range, they are Root icon rooted for a short time.

ROOT DURATION: 1 / 1.25 / 1.5 / 1.75 / 2

(NEW) Karma can now target an ally champion. While tethered on an ally champion, any movement speed bonus that are already in place will extend that duration during focused resolved for Karma and her ally. (NEW) While tethered on an ennemy champion. Any slow effect that are already in place will extend that duration for the time focused resolve is still on the ennemy champion

Here's how it works.

IF DOING THIS ON AN ALLY

Let's say that Rammus would be activating Powerball and Karma has it tethered, she would also get that movement speed bonus. If Rammus' powerball effect would end BUT that focused resolved effect is still active, it would INCREASE that duration while the tether is still on (up for a maximum of 2 second because that tether lasts for 2 second!)

This DOES NOT increase Rammus's movespeed by an additionnal 140%. It only extend the duration and provides an extra movespeed for Karma.

The opposite can be done. So Karma would shield herself to get that extra 60% movement speed and then teether Rammus. Both will get the extra 60% movespeed for 60% up to a maximum of 3.5 second (1.5 for the shield itself and up to a maximum of 2 second for the tether) Doing this combo would be pretty hard to get the maximum effect. So I expect a 1 second bonus movement speed.

This would be a significant buff for her supporting. Since she could do this to save her allies. She could synergize well with Sivir (her ult), Jinx (her passive) Draven, Twitch...

IF DOING THIS ON AN ENNEMY

Let's say that an ennemy champion got hit by Maokai's sappling toss and the ennemy would be slowed by 50%. If Karma would tether that ennemy while the slow is still active, she would slow the target by 50% for the time that focused resolved is still active. This would allow her to land that root easier and kite more easily.

So you guessed it, this could be either very annoying (Combining this with Zilean's 99% slow or Thresh's ultimate) or either just ok (Combining it the red buff or Lissandra's Ice shard)

Karma could do this by herself by launching an Inner flame or souflare on a target, then she could tether ennemies while the slow effect is still on.

So you can see. Depending on the current effect of slow // movementspeed bonus, this could mean alot for Karma. She could use it offensively to kite and land an easier root. Or she could it defensively, and save her allies and herself by going faster.

Using her ultimate won't change any effect on an ennemy or ally.

Is this too OP? How about we forget the numbers and just look at the concept?

7 Comments

Hupsis2 votes

That sounds very fun and unique. I don't think W needs to extend slows on enemies but the extended speed on allies would be quite interesting.

Maybe each W rank would increase the tether duration by a bit if cast on ally (2/ 2.25/ 2.5/ 2.75/ 3 sec). And mantra W on an ally could redirect damage to Karma or something.

However I don't think the movement speed should be shared to Karma when she's tethered to an ally with a speed boost due to mantra E already being an aoe speed boost. It would remove the need of mantra E completely if she could just use WE combo to get both herself and her ally to safety.

To make W cast on an ally not feel so useless if a speed buff is not usable, why not also give it a 20% slow reduction.

Hochelaga1 votes

If that movement speed isn't shared for Karma, I don't know how she can keep that tether on her ally. Besides, her E's main goal is to** shield damage **and give her a small 1,5 movement speed duration.

Using the W E combo is mainly the reason why I want this. It could provide so much more gameplay when she's supporting.

I've played over 2000 games with Karma and I know how this change can affect her :p I am so dedicated to Karma that I even wrote a featured guide on her. Go check it out on Lolking.net if you want

Hupsis1 votes

Why not use mantra E to give both the speed buff and then extend it with W?

I just think that her mantra E should remain the spell that she uses when she need to get multiple people out of a bad situation. If W made it so that she doesn't need to use mantra E for laning phase disengages (or engages), mantra E would have one reason less to be used... and it already is probably the least used mantra.

Hochelaga1 votes

Yes! Using Mantra E then adding W would be fantastic.

Currently I don't think that we should worry about her shield. It has a 4.8 second cooldown with 40% cdr. Mantra E is awesome in a midst of a teamfight.

Focused resolved is the problem. You don't want to root an ennemy in a teamfight because you'll put yourself in a danger. I don't see Mantra W often too. I personnally prefer to Soulflare and leave an AOE slow in the ground instead of a potential 3.25 root. This being said. If W could be cast on an ally, think of all the supporting capacity she could get.

Mantra Q plus W would actually be a combo Mantra E plus W would actually be a combo Mantra W can be cast must more often because of the posibilities (Kiting and baiting)

Davidt12342 votes

i definitely think something like this needs to be implemented. karma is currently plain and unoriginal and really has nothing of old karma. at least this will give her something somewhat similar while also being a new and interesting buff XD

although tbh i would prefer they bring back old karma as a new champion completely...maybe skarmas childhood friend/sister as some have said...she really either needs a smaller scale rework on some of her abilities like this not only because they basically removed the last remnant of old karma (it was like, a much lower damage shield bomb and now it doesnt even exist :/) but also because shes very bland atm with nothing really unique about her :/

the closest thing about old karma and skarma is Q is poke, W is a tether (with not at all the same function :/), E shields, and R empowers her next ability. Get anymore indepth than that or include anymore details and they already start to become different champions :(

UdoIkOSc4u1 votes

think at naked girls instead of a way of reworking karma....

Hochelaga1 votes

You horrible monster.Draven

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