I have over 75 key fragments and 0 loot chest

Hochelaga·Aug 3, 2017·43 votes·5,297 views

I don't know, maybe there could an option to convert 9 keys for 1 chest ...?

At least, I know I would be happy

edit : for those who don't believe me

https://ibb.co/f3zdwa

87 Comments

The Leo CatAug 3, 201735 votes

You could try getting an S on other champions.

Dani El PezgloboAug 3, 20172 votes

feels like he mean he already got 4 chest

Mr Wind Up BirdAug 3, 201715 votes

If you're getting all the chests you can, you will typically be wishing for more keys. I'm actually up to 5 chests now with only one key fragment :(

NoblewindAug 3, 201716 votes

I've always been sitting on chests and waiting for keys since the loot system was launched...

XonraAug 4, 20174 votes

Yeah I'm usually the other way around from the OP so I totally can't relate to this. How are people getting all these key fragments? I'm usually sitting on like 3 chests at least just waiting for a friggin key.

ImTheSideKickAug 4, 20172 votes

generally they are one trick ponies

I play and get S on over a dozen champions so I end up with way more chests then keys

NoblewindAug 4, 20171 votes

I get they want free things like everyone else but I mean, if I only played 1-3 champs exclusively, I know I wouldn't really care about the loot system

GubaguyAug 4, 201714 votes

The problem is how hard it is to get an S rank on champions, oh you carried your team and went 50/0/50? But you only had a CS of 4, so... A+

Oh, you were a nasus with 1500 stacks, killed every single tower, took all the inhibs solo AND ended the game single handedly, sorry but you only went 0/0/2 somehow, A-

Oh, you were a support who soaked up 300,000 damage, hard 3 wards up every second of the game from the second you got a sightstone, landed every stun, snare, silence, shield, and even gave yoru life to save your ADC? Well, too bad, C- for no kills and no cs.

System is broken man.

A girl Supp MainAug 4, 201710 votes

The worst thing as a support is when you suddenly have to flash ult someone to save your goofball teammate while you have no health and were recalling safely, but they apparently disagree. Then you die. You can feel your S rank crushed under the question mark pings raining upon your corpse, and silently consider that nobody will ever understand your sacrifice.

_1/3/49. _

"A-"

item 3070 Braum

HadfieldAug 4, 20175 votes

The system is not broken. It rewards overall stellar performance, not just KDA padding.

maliohammadAug 4, 20172 votes

no , it doesn't reward vision control , objective control and the things that win the game , it just care about kda and cs , not even your total damage / damage you absorbed

NuparuAug 4, 20173 votes

Vision score is a thing they display now and it's always been a part of the ranking system.

GubaguyAug 4, 20172 votes

No, the system is broken, if you dont have high CS and hig number of kills with few deaths you dont get an S, it doesnt matter what else you do, doesnt matter if you healed 1 million damage from your teammates, or tanked a billion dmage, it ONLY considers KDA and CS.

PaladinNOAug 4, 20175 votes

System is broken man.

Here's a fun fact: The system still counts farm in ARAM when giving grades.

GubaguyAug 4, 20173 votes

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Sp33d Zer0Aug 4, 20171 votes

Just play them in an off meta role.

Much less is required for you to get an s on Ashe top then ashe bot for example

KoKobotoAug 3, 20178 votes

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DeathBurstAug 3, 20176 votes

Honestly, I understand how you feel, but a/ Riot will never do it, and b/ just play some other champs, gosh dang it...

Chests are some free Loot. It's a privilege you get, not a right you're entitled to. If you don't want to play other champs, fine, enjoy your One-Trick Pony, no one will blame you, but don't worry about the Loot system and don't complain about not getting chests.

And if you DO want to get chests, it's really not that hard, provided you actually make some effort toward it and not play whatever. Find a friend to duo with, play some random champ you've never played, while they play their main, and do that on the Queue that you least often play on (because your MMR will usually be lower on that queue). Your friend will get an easy S in 2-3 games, and you'll get an easy chest. You can return the favor afterward, and you just need to do that once per week to get the maximum amount of chests available.

Compare that with getting keys, to get the maximum amount of fragments available, you need to play 100+ games per month, so 25+ game per week. It requires much more time to get the max amount of keys than the max amount of chests.

BodhizaphaAug 3, 20171 votes

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DeathBurstAug 3, 20172 votes

That's derailing, aggressive, and all of that for no good reason... Just a hint: when you feel obliged to conclude a post with "I am done, sorry", maybe don't click the "Post" button at all, and don't be sorry ;)

BodhizaphaAug 3, 20172 votes

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That's derailing, aggressive, and all of that for no good reason... Just a hint: when you feel obliged to conclude a post with "I am done, sorry", maybe don't click the "Post" button at all, and don't be sorry ;)

Happy? I debated about leaving it cause it does come off as pertinacious. I still stand firm that you should not cry over free loot, and lots of people to many in fact act entitled to free stuff. Play more champs or spend money. I am not sorry for this.

DrCyanideAug 3, 20171 votes

Chests are some free Loot. It's a privilege you get, not a right you're entitled to. If you don't want to play other champs, fine, enjoy your One-Trick Pony, no one will blame you, but don't worry about the Loot system and don't complain about not getting chests.

You could just as easily say that about Keys, with the solution being "just win more games". Yet people did complain about keys, and Riot decided to make additional ways to get Keys. Giving out extra Key Fragments for Honor Capsules or giving out an extra Chest per Honor Capsule would make no difference to Riot.

DeathBurstAug 3, 20172 votes

Well, actually yes, it would make a difference.

Currently, the max amount of chests and keys is aligned. Chest are more difficult to get, while Keys are more time-consuming, but the max amount is the same. You can open 4 chests per month, and you're done.

If you make additional ways to get one of the two, but only one, you don't increase the max amount of loot available, you're still blocked at 4 chests per month. But if you make BOTH components easier to get, then you can go beyond that limit.

Giving a few additional keys does nothing for people already at the limit, and does nothing for people who only play a few champs. Giving a few additional keys OR chests is giving EVERYONE a bit more free loot. That's clearly not the same thing.

SukishooAug 3, 20174 votes

I dunno about you but I've gotten 31 chests this season and have opened all of them. So, you might want to spread out the number of champions you are playing.

SwiftKitten88Aug 4, 20173 votes

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I dunno about you but I've gotten 31 chests this season and have opened all of them. So, you might want to spread out the number of champions you are playing.

so because the way u happen to play works the system better he should be forced to play that way?

you should be able to swap a completed key for a chest.

some players like to play a lot of champsion... other players like to play a small number of champsion.

other players shouldn't randomly get 10x more free rewards just because riot wont add a exchange A for B system.

Deez CritsAug 4, 20174 votes

What is your definition of "randomly"?

The change you're suggesting won't really fix much.

You're proposing a change for people who have small champ pools who would theoretically care the LEAST about chest rewards. Chests contain cosmetic loot and maybe new champs sometimes. If they have a small champ pool, they're less likely to get anything useful cosmetically. Also, if they don't play many champs they're probably happier to spend IP on the ones they want and wait for free rotations to try out new champs.

SwiftKitten88Aug 4, 20171 votes

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The change you're suggesting won't really fix much.

You're proposing a change for people who have small champ pools who would theoretically care the LEAST about chest rewards. Chests contain cosmetic loot and maybe new champs sometimes. If they have a small champ pool, they're less likely to get anything useful cosmetically. Also, if they don't play many champs they're probably happier to spend IP on the ones they want and wait for free rotations to try out new champs.

well i cant really argue with that point. i havent ever gotten much of anything i like form chests other than blue essence, but i also dont get many chests to even open so.. yeah but just becuase i dont PLAY the champsion doesn't mean i dont own a bunch... i own most of the champion my freinds play so we can swap if thier pick would otherwise be contested and im a higher pick. (because u know my picks are never really contested) becuase of this i own most adc's even though i cant play any adc to save my live

and i didnt actually get a Warwick champ shard that i used to unlock mastery 6 with him before i got him to 7.

then there are ward skins... which i would love to have some more of those.

RainfallAug 4, 20173 votes

find 4 bronze players ,play 10 games with 10 diferent champions easy peasy keys

MarshbouyAug 4, 20173 votes

I don't know how this is so hard to understand. Riot gave parameters on how to get chests, you have to meet them if you want chests. It's not fucking rocket science.

HeeroTXAug 3, 20172 votes

I would actually be happy if we could just trade key frags for Blue Essence or LP, or even just ARAM re-rolls. I wouldn't even care if it was straight 1 -> 1.

FloupiAug 3, 201730 votes

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BotifierAug 3, 201720 votes

Thanks to all of these key fragments I am now better than faker

HeeroTXAug 4, 20176 votes

My bad, that was a typo, meant IP.

LOSINGISMYPRIDEAug 3, 20172 votes

you could buy them ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

LightIsMyPathAug 3, 20171 votes

I have 21. I already got chests for the full first 3 lines of my champion collection, mastery order. In the 4th line I only miss katarina...

My Waifu VanillaAug 4, 20171 votes

That math doesn't add up at all. That means you would have already gotten 27 (each row is 7 long with your 4th row only have 6) chests since January which is basically 100% chest acquisition (we are on roughly week 29 or so of the year I don't feel like counting) and still have 7 keys leftover. That means you either didn't get hardly any chests last season or you bought hella keys.

HochelagaAug 4, 20172 votes

I just play alot and i never bought keys, notice the 375K IP

LightIsMyPathAug 4, 20171 votes

I'm literally drowning in keys since honor system came out. Sometimes I receive 2 together and I had a drop almost every log in the first days. Now I ended the champions I can more or less play and I 'm desperate for chests..

AimléssAug 4, 20171 votes

Why are chests dedicated to 1 champion per chest? Why can't it just be a limit on how many we can get, can even make that limit equal to the amount of champs we own, but please let me spend my 70 key fragments. I should get boxes by just playing the game, I shouldn't have to force myself to play other champions.

And if Riot absolutely can't do this, then give key fragments a second use.

My Waifu VanillaAug 4, 20171 votes

You have to AT MOST play 52 champions throughout the entire year if you want every single chest available. Considering how relatively easy it is to get S's it really isn't that hard to get MOST of the chests. Also, you don't even have to do WELL on another champion to get a chest. You can get some random joe shmoe to queue with you and hard carry on any champion he so desires and you get a chest for going 0/36 as first time Yasuo.

AimléssAug 5, 20171 votes

You don't 100% get my point though, I shouldn't have to actively try to grind out chests. I should just get them by playing the game. Isn't that system to reward those that play a lot? Why do we have to play "for chests"?

DemainaNyxAug 5, 20171 votes

I think the system is to reward players for playing multiple champions well, not just playing a lot. If it was simply for playing a lot, they should change it so that you get a chest every 20 games you play instead of being for getting an S.

AimléssAug 5, 20171 votes

I know, it should be changed to reward you fro playing a lot, but not just by playing. It should reward players that play "well" often. So if you get 3 S's in a 20 game stretch you can get a box.

TrídentAug 4, 20171 votes

I always am short on keys xD I wish there was a trading system

Son of UrAug 22, 20171 votes

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I always am short on keys xD I wish there was a trading system

You, Trident man. I shall be watching you.

CatastrophicAug 5, 20171 votes

the life of a one trick pony.

VallalanAug 5, 20171 votes

It would require spending some real cash, but getting the hextech chests when you dont have to buy the keys is actually quite good and efficient at that point. you won't be able to pick and choose what you get, but the value is far greater relative to the RP spent. especially since you already have a ton of orange essence to use.

I've spent quite a bit of money on hextech back when I was trying to get soulstealer vayne during project week. (when project ashe, kat, ekko came out).

I spent around 150 total dollars trying to get soulstealer vayne. and even though everyone says "oh you spent 150 bucks just to get vayne, that's not worth at all". I tell them yeah that wouldn't be. but I got a SHIT ton of good stuff in the other chests. like worth WAY more than the 150 I spent.

I remember I got SO many 1350 skins. like multiple ones for adcs, i got both fiora ones (project/pool party), spirit fire brand, and a slew of legacy skins that are actually good legacy (christmas skins/halloween for example) that I wouldn't be able to get anywhere else.

The regular non event hextech chests aren't as good as event hextech, but they are still worth. You sometimes get champ shards which sucks, but they are only 125. If you have the keys to open them let me put in perspective for you.

For 1820 RP, you can get 14 (and a half hue hue) hextech chests.

You can reroll 3 skins into a random skin at the MINIMUM, as well as just disenchant for more essence until you get an epic or legendary skin you want. (or legacy).

Even if you get half of the chests to be champion shards (very unlikely usually its about 1 out of every 3 or sometimes less) , you still are likely to get TWO epic skins that are worth 1350 assuming you weren't completely unlucky. Not only that but you also can rack up the gemstones to get more chests or save up for the mythic skins.

Its worth it. I love the hextech system and I don't mind paying for it because its saved me a lot of money on skins. Sure sometimes I get an epic skin for a champ I don't play often (like radian wukong recently) but I only payed like 5 bucks for it, so its a deal who cares?

FowusAug 5, 20171 votes

get good and you will get chests

BluspadeOct 8, 20181 votes

Is there a way to disable getting key fragments? Feels annoying having spam when you login. Makes me feel like telling everyone off every game so I don't get honor.