Having a total win rate of 45-46% and getting nerfed because he's too strong.
Just goes to show you can't use win rate all the time to back up your argument on why a champion is overbearing or under-bearing.
Void Consumed1 votesI don't think people understand that he's just a very duel based mage. If in fact you wait for team fights, he shouldn't have the leisure of walking up with out risk of getting caught out and throwing a fight being he needs to get in close. None the less if the nerfs do go through, let's see how far his winrate will drop. He actually has a 41% winrate in the top lane, and a 43% in the mid lane. I personally don't think he's much more then a lane bully so no reason to nerf him.
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I don't think people understand that he's just a very duel based mage. If in fact you wait for team fights, he shouldn't have the leisure of walking up with out risk of getting caught out and throwing a fight being he needs to get in close. None the less if the nerfs do go through, let's see how far his winrate will drop. He actually has a 41% winrate in the top lane, and a 43% in the mid lane. I personally don't think he's much more then a lane bully so no reason to nerf him.
To be honest, yes, but at the same time, no, because he can always double E the front line and then Q to hit everything around them.
Void Consumed1 votesTo be honest, yes, but at the same time, no, because he can always double E the front line and then Q to hit everything around them.
Yet again referring to a point I made. If he walks up, he can easily be picked off.
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Yet again referring to a point I made. If he walks up, he can easily be picked off.
Meh, he can wait for the tanks to burn their gapclosers and then E them.
Void Consumed1 votesMeh, he can wait for the tanks to burn their gapclosers and then E them.
And then what about the other 3 - 4 enemies?
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And then what about the other 3 - 4 enemies?
Well you see, he's not in range of the ADC due to having basically the same range as them and since he;s hitting the front line, the ADC would have to be in the front line to hit him, which is already a huge fuck up.
If he gets dived on, he does what every mage does, except he has movespeed to make it even easier: He snares them and kites away from the rest of their team while focusing the diver.
Assuming there's a long range mage on the other team, he does what everyone else does: he tries to dodge their skillshots or has his tanks bodyblock them.
The support is practically a mage.
Void Consumed1 votesWell you see, he's not in range of the ADC due to having basically the same range as them and since he;s hitting the front line, the ADC would have to be in the front line to hit him, which is already a huge fuck up.
If he gets dived on, he does what every mage does, except he has movespeed to make it even easier: He snares them and kites away from the rest of their team while focusing the diver.
Assuming there's a long range mage on the other team, he does what everyone else does: he tries to dodge their skillshots or has his tanks bodyblock them.
The support is practically a mage.
You're attempting to simplify everything with a preset of how everything will play out, when everything is never as simple as that. There are multiple factors and out comes that can happen in fights not "oh dodge X then Y happens". All you've stated are just mere brush off attempts to legitimate points I've made.
