and instead should see stronger nerfs for his late game because he is supposed to be strong early-mid game but fall off late game, like maybe keep the lvl 6 ult the same as it is now but nerf the ad scaling and base damage of the later levels of his ult
Jbels1 votesHis strength in the early game comes from his insane base damage, his strength in the mid game comes from his completed offense items. He falls off in the late game damage-wise because he doesn't continue to buy damage items. Nerfing his late game will do literally nothing to his late game because it will still operate how it already does. They need to nerf his early to mid game because it's oppressive to play against
R7 Factor1 votes[{quoted}](name=NMF Jbels,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oWcl0Bv9,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-12-09T17:54:46.920+0000)
His strength in the early game comes from his insane base damage, his strength in the mid game comes from his completed offense items. He falls off in the late game damage-wise because he doesn't continue to buy damage items. Nerfing his late game will do literally nothing to his late game because it will still operate how it already does. They need to nerf his early to mid game because it's oppressive to play against
That's why i said I would rather see a nerf to his scaling, and just because a champion is oppressive early-mid game doesn't make them op by any means (see 
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Jbels1 votes[{quoted}](name=Trump Meme,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oWcl0Bv9,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2016-12-09T17:59:39.724+0000)
That's why i said I would rather see a nerf to his scaling, and just because a champion is oppressive early-mid game doesn't make them op by any means (see
Pantheon makes it incredibly hard to come back in lane if he manages to kill you, and just like Lee, everything he does in the early to mid game is for the purpose of setting back the enemy laner/team as much as he can. Shaving damage off of Lee's level 3 ult would be like shaving damage off of Pantheon's level 3 ult, completely ineffective and pointless
Asayake 5150glow1 votes[{quoted}](name=NMF Jbels,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oWcl0Bv9,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2016-12-09T18:06:26.794+0000)
Pantheon makes it incredibly hard to come back in lane if he manages to kill you, and just like Lee, everything he does in the early to mid game is for the purpose of setting back the enemy laner/team as much as he can. Shaving damage off of Lee's level 3 ult would be like shaving damage off of Pantheon's level 3 ult, completely ineffective and pointless
Which is why Panth's ult does a potentially AoE 1k +100% AP damage :P
Kaisa is Hot1 votes[{quoted}](name=NMF Jbels,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oWcl0Bv9,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-12-09T17:54:46.920+0000)
His strength in the early game comes from his insane base damage, his strength in the mid game comes from his completed offense items. He falls off in the late game damage-wise because he doesn't continue to buy damage items. Nerfing his late game will do literally nothing to his late game because it will still operate how it already does. They need to nerf his early to mid game because it's oppressive to play against
I am all for these Lee nerfs, this will help tone him down a bit. But I think the real problem is his ratios. His Q has a really good ratio when you add the 8% missing health on second cast not to mention it deals 340 total base damage, his W gives him a jack ton of stats from shield to spellvamp and Lifesteal, his E does good base damage with a good ratio, and his R has the most retarded ratio ever for a fighter. 200% bonus AD is a lottle over the top for all the previous things i've mentioned that he has in his kit.
ScissorsNstuff1 votesit doesn't but giving lee meaningless nerfs is a great way to pacify bloodthirsty idiots
Astôlfo1 votesBut. He does fall off late. His overly strong early was the issue.