Teemo Shroom Counterplay?

Unreformed Shaco··3 votes·1,300 views

item 3364 lasts 10 sec on a 60 sec cd.

You stand on one, its game.

How is that okay?

Gut Shaco, Rengar and other stealth champs cause jumping out of stealth is considering unhealthy, but Teemo can drop 2 shrooms from the other side of hte map and do the same?

9 Comments

Binding Eclipse3 votes

Control wards are cheap and disposable, and their range is likely more comfortable than you'd assume if you haven't tried toting a stack around yet. If you're worried mainly about lane phase, you can and should learn the Teemo's patterns as well as sticking with your minion wave.

When it comes to late game/free-roam, ideally you should have more than one sweeper on your team. I know I raise hell when I'm support and the top is feeding Teemo because they refuse to swap their trinket and/or play with a little more conscious effort.

meowwow72 votes

yeah sweeper has such a low cd late game when you are 5/5 on ingenious hunter

Unreformed Shaco1 votes

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yeah sweeper has such a low cd late game when you are 5/5 on ingenious hunter

Still has down time. Are you meant to stand still while its down?

Unreformed Shaco1 votes

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Control wards are cheap and disposable, and their range is likely more comfortable than you'd assume if you haven't tried toting a stack around yet. If you're worried mainly about lane phase, you can and should learn the Teemo's patterns as well as sticking with your minion wave.

Can't buy control wards at 6 items.

The problem isn't lane phase. The problem is late game, when they do 1k+ damage because of their synergy with Liandry's.

He can spend 1 minute prepping baron and get around 5 down, and if 1 of them goes off he has won the fight because everyone on the enemy team is now crippled and on half health.

It was fine when Oracles was around, because that was more constant. In the current state your team either gives up a huge amount of vision control to stack item 3364 , or you get lucky and hope that 1-2 of them can clear enough to proceed.

They want to limit burst from stealth, how about they dont have double standards.

SEKAI3 votes

Outside of the lane the Teemo was laning in that he would have time and leisure to place shrooms at every corner of that lane, otherwise outside of it all Teemo players due to efficiency reasons will always place shrooms either in the middle of a small brush, maybe 2 in large brushes like at the top and bot lane, in the middle of the lane to delay pushing, and in the middle of a choke point if there's no brushes there.

This isn't to say all and every Teemo will follow this exact pattern of shroom placements, but you should have a pretty good idea about where some of those shrooms are even without visually confirming their location and you can avoid them via skidding past them by sticking to walls, staying behind minion waves and have them trigger most of the shrooms in the middle of the lane, or something along that line.

Obviously, if you have to brute force it, there's the control wards and things like Banshee's Veil, too (outside of red trinket). Or you can just try and tank it out.

Concerning if you're one laning against Teemo, buy a control ward and place it in the brush in the lane that's closer to your turret, and renew it if it gets destroyed. That way most of the lane placement would be moot and Teemo can't also ambush you in the conventional way for the most part without you over-extend.

ZephyrDrake2 votes

build MR, get control wards and the red trinket. There you go easy counterplay. You want even more counterplay? heals and shields work wonders. Do not go blindly into brushes while laning, teemo more than likely has a shroom in them. Force fights around where teemo hasn't been, less shrooms to worry about.

meowwow71 votes

well it does magic damage and not true damage right? if so build some mr items

Unreformed Shaco2 votes

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well it does magic damage and not true damage right? if so build some mr items

Given that teemo builds Sorc/Liandrys/Void, it isn't hugely effective.

zZ KanKuro Zz1 votes

item 2055 item 3364 teemo is a bit too strong right now i agree but nothing as changed about his shrooms,nothing has changed about teemo, if riot nerf the runes teemo will back to his previous 49%/50% win rate state.

Also the game ending so fast is making earlie game champs to strong because their weakness (Teamfight/Late Game) almost never happen.

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