Isn't Yasuo considered bad game design?

Too Ton··3 votes·1,904 views

Despite having innovative abilities, his win rate is lowest AND a high ban rate. An annoying champion is a bad designed champion. Unless Riot intended Yasuo to be highly annoying while not winning, then they accomplished it.

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disregardable2 votes

Gee, I wonder what other champs are like that...Teemo

Karcist2 votes

Gee, I wonder what other champs are like that...Teemo

Teemo has a relatively high win rate with a practically non-existent ban rate. What are you talking about?

JusticePauldrons2 votes

I think he meant that to the whole "annoying champ while not winning" thing. Since when did you see teemo accomplish anything even when he was picked at worlds? He is meant to be a nuisance, thats it.

Earl Eulrich1 votes

Teemo is annoying and winning....his ult just offers far too much map-control in capeable hands. He´s certainly not the best designed Champ of all times and I´d really be happy to see some major changes to his shrooms, but at least the feeling you get while killing him is satisfying enough to make up for that. With Yasuo your only annoyed without any satisfaction - especially when the 4th good engage in a row gets canceled by a windwall that is able to "tank" your ADC longer than a 6Item Mundo would.

Caekie2 votes

not really.

it means that not everyone can play him and he has a high skill ceiling, hence pros ban him.

CaRTeLKiLLa2 votes

His winrate/banrate are only skewed because of bads in Bronze-Gold who still cant seem to understand how to play [against] him nearly a year after his release. Personally I roflstomped him in mid 9 out of 10 times with Malphite and am not a mid player so I cant understand why he is still getting banned almost every game after receiving significant nerfs. It seems to me that the people who play this game simply cannot seem to grasp the concept that champions with 125-175 autoattack range have to be compensated for having such a glaring disadvantage by having some combination of enhanced mobility/damage/resilience.

Arch Mage Magnus2 votes

I kinda agree. I hear he sucks since the nerf but I'd never know because he still gets banned every game. Honestly even when I am Captain I make sure he is banned. I just don't want to take the risk of him going nuts on our whole team at the end game. But yes, I think he is horribly designed as a champion,

Dunderflump2 votes

He'd be good design if his W was his ultimate.

Brenticus121 votes

His high ban rate is due to lower elos banning him out of fear, but the thing is, most of the nerfs have already made him balanced and he'll only hyper carry if he gets a few kills early or mid game.

Thing is, that's very hard now cause the recent nerf reduced hs health AND his movement speed (Which means he can't trade well early game, his E is on a longer CD and if he wants to survive mid game he'll have to sacrifice his second powerspike for some defense instead unless he's fed).

Like most mid laners that are in the meta, don't feed him or he'll just push a wave into tower then roam.

CreativeMatrix1 votes

1.The reason his Ban rate is so high is because people don't know how to play against him. There are many ways to shut him down but people are generally idiots and don't want to learn how to counter him. They rather just ban.

2.His win rate is very low because people don't know how to play him well. Yasuo is the type of champ that is easy to play but difficult to master. His E can put you in a difficult spot and you can get punished hard for it facing the right opponent, And if not built properly he can be shut down hard. But when Yasuo is in the hands of a strong player he can be devastating. But there aren't too many of those matchmaking.

Now after the 4.18 nerf you really need skill to play him well, which would explain why less people are playing him.

JustMyBassCannon1 votes

An annoying champion is a bad designed champion.

Any champion can be considered an annoying design. Ryze probably considers Ziggs annoying. Darius considers Vladimir annoying. Caitlyn finds Sivir annoying.

Yasuo has a high ban rate because fucking idiots still haven't learned how to play against him. He has a low win rate because, like every single goddamn person who has played a single game as him has said, he's a high skill-floor champion. The ratio of idiots to level-headed players in League of Legends is what happened to Yasuo's win/ban rates.

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