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why is a 4400 hp hecarim carrying team fights with his damage?

MunchCrunchLunch··47 votes·3,086 views

isn't that the adc job. Why is a 4400 hecarim outdamaging the enemy twitch that has 5 damage item and hecarim has just a triforce? its sure fun taking 1600 damage from a hecarim with 4400 hp. when the fuck are you going to nerf his base damages? you really think that 10 ad did anything?. not a single fucking tank in this game (and yes I just called hecarm a tank because he isn't building much damage outside of a triforce). does as much damage as hecarim. even rammus that gets ad from armor doesn't do anything that stupid. disgusting champion.

38 Comments

BluePolarizer23 votes

that's just not true. A 5 damage item twitch can 1 shot an entire team, or at least 1 second kill an entire team. And it doesn't matter who he really shoots either.

item 3031 item 3085 item 3046 item 3072 item 3036 item 3006 Twitch literally will win teamfights in seconds without even kiting.

MunchCrunchLunch7 votes

at least we can kill him. 4400 hp hecarim that one shots our adc and mage is not fucking right. tanks do damage when they snowball. not late game. thats ridiculous.

WukongMain1 votes

Why is the mage and adc getting in his ulti range anyway? xD.

Big Lincoln7 votes

because his ult range is bigger than theirs xD

D357R0Y3R1 votes

hecarim dash speed is low to be fair

ApexInTheCircle2 votes

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Why is the mage and adc getting in his ulti range anyway? xD.

In their defense his Ult range is massive and he will just ignore your front line to charge in and wipe your backline.

BluePolarizer3 votes

You can't kill him. Twitch can literally stand there with warlord's and out lifesteal any damage you output. I've played it from the Hecarim side in p1/d5 elo. Early game you can burst Twitch, late game Twitch can 1 shot your entire team. The only way he doesn't is if he positions like a silver.

PlanetWarwick11 votes

Bruh So ur saying ur whole team just let heca ult e ur adc and then slowly kill your mage with q procs

2Charmnot2Charm1 votes

{quoted}

that's just not true. A 5 damage item twitch can 1 shot an entire team, or at least 1 second kill an entire team. And it doesn't matter who he really shoots either.

item 3031 item 3085 item 3046 item 3072 item 3036 item 3006 Twitch literally will win teamfights in seconds without even kiting.

At least twitch has no cc to prevent someone who can delete him off the map from jumping onto him the moment he shows himself.

Hec has fast movespeed with a knock back tied to it, gap closing ultimate that fears targets, and does all the damage he needs to kill carries with just one damage item while he himself is really tanky.

BananaJannana15 votes

why is a 4400 hp hecarim carrying team fights with his damage?

Because you fed him.

Spaceman5pff3 votes

Bingoooooooo

PiVoRx10 votes

Base damage is general issue in this game, full tank Zac Maokai doing most of the damage in team is very common, not to mention others like LeeSin Khazix Annie doing insane damage out of the box.

DoktorKaiser6 votes

The problem isnt Hecarim, its the amount of damage in the game curently. Worst thing is that the Heca 1 shot you, but also you (3-4 people) could probably kill him in 2 seconds with all his tank items which is also unfair for him. Gameplay is really going downhill with this damage overload, I remember when I mained Heca in season 3, I could distract backline for around 10-20 seconds but I could rarely kill them, now I 1 shot them or they 1 shot me...

Unlucky475 votes

Because riot said they fixed the problem with him but we all know that hecarim still does it

Swarovsko5 votes

DrMundo Hecarim Volibear Zac Vi I hate champions who are twice as tanky as an adc but are still able to do more damage than them.

Ahristocats11 votes

Draven Twitch Vayne Caitlyn if they are doing as much damage as those adc there is a problem in your game

Swarovsko2 votes

Oh c'mon everyone knows those 4 are over the top rn, especially Vayne and Cait.

Ahristocats8 votes

draven isn't over the top, and ADC Varus still does more damage than those champions, same for Jhin Jinx

the problem with the champions you listed is that they do too much damage for what they are supposed to do (and it's a problem because they have other things),** but they definitly don't do as much damage as an adc**

Pentium21 votes

Draven is not a tank killer, in fact he is the most fucked when a hecarim jumps in his face, since that fucks up axes completely.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo3 votes

play champs that have slows. CCs, can alter terrain etc... he gets and does damage based on how fast he moves... it gives him free ad... if you make him go slow... it limits his damage and well makes him an easy target to kill

Are3 votes

Was he super fed and multiple levels higher than your team?

God Went MIA2 votes

Same should be said about Darius. This bruiser meta is a joke. Champs like Vi, Darius, and Renekton building full tank with a black cleaver and dealing more damage than carries. It's embarrassing for riot.

l Dárius l1 votes

Except Vi, Darius, and Renekton aren't anything special right now and haven't been for a while.

Blåbæret1 votes

[{quoted}](name=noxus roolz,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=o36YoEHl,comment-id=00080000,timestamp=2016-12-18T03:55:35.982+0000)

Except Vi, Darius, and Renekton aren't anything special right now and haven't been for a while.

Renekton I agree with, but Darius and Vi? Have you been playing lately?

l Dárius l1 votes

Well, with the rising popularity of Darius, my main champion, and him being picked from me in more and more games, I can tell you that they all get fed off the stupidity of their opponents, like most Darius' do except for when the juggernaut rework came out. If people didn't take the "hes not fed im sure ill be fine" approach to champions like Darius, they wouldn't bitch and moan like they are now. Also, if people would actually dodge his q and e which have stupid hitboxes anyway he would really just have 2 abilities to work with.

Dengeden2 votes

It's fun to see the young ones not understand how fighters work. Ranged v melee bruh, ranged v melee.

Lùmen2 votes

Just faced one. Literally one shots me and my ADC while tanking our team's entire damage output. So broken and braindead

paisy2 votes

Did you say nerf Shen?

Papa Slothy1 votes

hecarim is a bit too strong right now

Critmaster Garen1 votes

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due to the way movement speed slows vs. movement speed buffs work, they completely dump on his damage output. when lane hecarim was a thing, i did not lose a single lane to one, since i always simply rushed randuins as my first item. as soon as i finished it, he was incapable of winning a trade.

its still my main item to protect my backline against a charging hecarim. you need to time it right, so the slow hits him while hes running past you. but if you do, its a pretty nasty counterengage. the fact that randuins active is an aoe slow makes it decently reliable against him.

Final Spark Lux1 votes

Actually I just had the misfortune of vs a malph that build bloodrazor into pure tank, and was able to chase down and kill basically anyone on our team. It actually made me want to give up ;_;

theArtifacts1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Final Spark Lux,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=o36YoEHl,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2016-12-18T03:35:39.260+0000)

Actually I just had the misfortune of vs a malph that build bloodrazor into pure tank, and was able to chase down and kill basically anyone on our team. It actually made me want to give up ;_;

I played with a Tahm on my team who built Wits End, Frozen Mallet, and then other HP/Tank items. Dude could kill anyone and they couldn't get away once he landed a single aa.

l Dárius l1 votes

Well, the truth is, a 5 item twitch is probably trolling if he can't carry his teams damage. Seriously, Twitch can kill almost anything in just a few autos late game. He can facetank a lot of champs like Hecarim once he has lifesteal and armorpen. Twitch is one of the best adcs in the game right now.

Kingdom Corn1 votes

So you are telling me twitch (an adc that has an ult that makes his auto range increase like fucking crazy) got killed because hecarim got on him? You are leaving too much info from your statement like was twitch in enemy jg alone? if so he deserves to die 100 times. Was he behind the SUPPORT, TANK, and the JUGGERNAUT? well if he was then its k you guys will 5v1 hecarim and he will die as long as you are not retarded.

6Sfool1 votes

Compare him to the other jungler. Jungles almost always deal the most damage in a game, regardless of how tanky they are.

Xela Syab1 votes

[slayer-pantheon-popcorn]

Frius1 votes

Hecarim >Twitch who is isolated from supportive team. and caugfh off

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