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I finally had the pleasure of laning aganist Zyra.

Vistha Kai·5/29/2016, 7:09:46 AM·3 votes·422 views

Gotta say is was quite an ordeal to lane aganist her and I can see why her winrate is so high.

In a way she's like Azir, as in you can't get anywhere near her without losing half HP, except better, because she doesn't have to choose between farming and poking.

First of all their AI got better, but that isn't necessary bad. It's becomes bad when we consider the following:

  1. Thorn Spitter plants have an absurd range of 750, which is higher than all, but two champions in the game and those being ulting Twitch and Caitlyn who just hit a plant with the Net.
  2. Plants will always prioritize champions in range, when summoned. Considering her passive, that'd be... WHOLE LANE.
  3. Each of her plants will usually hit twice before you are able to react and move out of their reach.
  4. Speaking of reach her abilities are too generous with growing plants, to the point of lack of need of any aiming.
  5. The final conclusion about Zyra's range is 1600 long poke for 60 mana without the need of aiming.

Gotta say, that at least the plants range should be cut down.

I can only imagine what kind of hell she must be for melee champs.

Edit:

And the very next game I played aganist Zyra as melee.

My observations:

  1. She never runs out of mana.
  2. She never has a downtime, a moment you can fight her.
  3. Her basic abilities deal no damage, everything is loaded into plants.
  4. Q and E can proc plants from so far outside their hitbox, you have to try really hard, to not proc at least 3 additional seeds scattered around opposite sides of lane.

8 Comments

The Last Ballad6/3/2016, 8:00:34 PM2 votes

She never runs out of mana.

This is untrue, but also true as well. All she needs to poke is 60 mana and to wait ~17 seconds(at most) so it is hard to run out of mana, BUT YOU ARE ALWAYS POKING AS A SUPPORT.

Honestly, the only way you can lose lane is if they have a hard engage support, or your adc works against you.(happens way too often...)

Also the plants only auto target you if you are in the plant spawn area of her q/e, but that is huge. So good luck.

She does need to be tuned down somewhat. I think nerfing the q width both on damage and plant spawn area would be a good start.

TNHA Baritone5/29/2016, 7:13:58 AM1 votes

As an X Zyra main, I hate the "rework"

I thought they'd use the opportunity to make something....flashy.

Vekkna6/3/2016, 8:21:03 PM1 votes

Play Irelia or Fizz and collect your free gold.

Leblancs Boob6/3/2016, 8:33:31 PM1 votes

FYI Plants** will not** automatically prioritize champions that are in range (except within a very small radius around them where plants will generally attack the closest target if nothing else is aggro'd). Plants will almost always prioritize the last target that Zyra AA'd -- This includes before they were summoned and I believe even if you run out of range and Zyra doesn't aggro anything else they will still prioritize you when you get back into range. Albeit Zyra's AA range is quite high you can try to punish her when she tries to aggro her plants onto you.