Is riven too strong right now?

Bultz··1 votes·1,024 views

Her kit just screams toxic. She has a dash allowing her to stun you and knock you up. I think the stun should be removed, my own opinion, since it makes no sense for her to have both or how logistically her dash at you would stun you, but none the less, her kit is so over packed. I think the major annoyance for me is that she can almost nearly spam the dashes because she is manaless. is it just me or does she seem too strong currently?

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Astôlfo2 votes

No.

Bultz1 votes

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No.

yes.

Astôlfo2 votes

She is incredibly, absurdly difficult, and not strong in any one particular field. She gives up strengths in specialties to get a rounded jack-of-all-trades type of kit. AKA, multiple toplaners do different specific things she can do far better.

If you are not a god-tier Riven player, just about any half-decent player will kick your ass.

Bultz1 votes

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She is incredibly, absurdly difficult, and not strong in any one particular field. She gives up strengths in specialties to get a rounded jack-of-all-trades type of kit. AKA, multiple toplaners do different specific things she can do far better.

If you are not a god-tier Riven player, just about any half-decent player will kick your ass.

I think anyone who can understand the mechanic can play her well, not just devoted players. basically its dash, stun, knock up, shield, run away while shield is up, wait until opponent is low health, once they are low health ult them. I think her dash's give her a great deal of wiggle room to be a lane bully.

Astôlfo2 votes

You are free to try that against any competent player and tell me how it goes.

Brain Errör 4041 votes

"dash" (you mean your shield?) "stun" (how are you gonna disengage?) "knockup" (So you're saying waste your Q's to go in?)

It's never that simple. He mechanics are all very situational. Some times you shield in, stun, auto and use your Q's to get out. you'll always have to save either your Q or E to get out of a trade. You didn't include auto attacks in any of your examples, which shows that you don't play riven much. She has to blow all of her offensive skills to go in, so she takes a lot of macro management to play well meaning you have to know exactly what it is you need to blow in order to trade effectively.

Ralanr1 votes

What would you replace her stun with?

Bultz1 votes

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What would you replace her stun with?

nothing, I don't see how she can stun you to begin with from a fighters stand point, that aside She has a knock up. I don't see the need for ehr to stun you and knock you up, while in the meantime she does a fair bit of damage. Chained cc from one champion always seems a bit much.

Ralanr1 votes

So you'll remove her W and make her have one less ability?

Bultz1 votes

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So you'll remove her W and make her have one less ability?

Yes. /s clearly I mean i wont replace it with another cc move. She bullies lane very easily with her stun dash knock up combo and that seems very strong.

Ralanr1 votes

Then what would you replace it with. Champions have at least four abilities man, you can't just make it so get W is literally a blank space.

Bultz1 votes

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Then what would you replace it with. Champions have at least four abilities man, you can't just make it so get W is literally a blank space.

you don't know that until you try lol. You can still give her a stun, just make it easier to dodge or deal with and not just a gant combo. I mean there is no good way to deal with cc anymore, especially things like her stun which are long enough to give her time to hurt you in combination with her knock up, but short enough where buying something like qss would be wasted.

Astôlfo2 votes

Um. You realize the stun is extremely short range and short duration?

Ralanr1 votes

I don't think he cares.

I really dislike when people want to remove something from a kit without any compensation. Like an entire ability and leave the button blank.

A Doorknob1 votes

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Her kit just screams toxic. She has a dash allowing her to stun you and knock you up. I think the stun should be removed, my own opinion, since it makes no sense for her to have both or how logistically her dash at you would stun you, but none the less, her kit is so over packed. I think the major annoyance for me is that she can almost nearly spam the dashes because she is manaless. is it just me or does she seem too strong currently?

Her dash isn't the stun. It's the shield. She gap closes with it and it shields her. The stun is a completely diffrent skill and she's got to be RIGHT UP IN YOUR FACE to use it. There is barely any range to it. She is very strong early game but brings very little to the team by mid-late game if you don't feed her. Her cool downs are also pretty high. Do not approach her if she hasn't used her flipety flops flips. A way to counter her is by using Garen.

NIGGIssippi1 votes

JUST GO OLAF OR GAREN AND U CAN FUCK HER UP

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