So... about those Kindred buffs.

Astôlfo·Aug 23, 2016·4 votes·1,061 views

I'm happy such a weak champion (for pretty much anyone without a ridiculous amount of experience on her) that I love an incredible amount is getting minor buffs which should help her do somewhat better. But I'm sort of surprised not one single thread crying about "hurdur wtf rito y u return kindoord to pre-nerf" or something of that nature. With how riled up people got about Kindred (which was justified since she was incredibly strong pre-nerfs, although the nerfs thereafter were excessive), I thought there'd be more complaining about even the slightest Kindred buffs.

17 Comments

TeemoMain2k15Aug 23, 20163 votes

I love how you try to say you love Kindred yet fail to realize it's not just lamb. Kindred is they, and this isn't being picky or anything like that. Their whole story is for them to be two souls working as one. Get it right or don't talk about the champion. Aka at least show basic knowledge of knowing a champion before talking about them. Kindred

CaptnJakSparrowAug 23, 20162 votes

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I love how you try to say you love Kindred yet fail to realize it's not just lamb. Kindred is they, and this isn't being picky or anything like that. Their whole story is for them to be two souls working as one. Get it right or don't talk about the champion. Aka at least show basic knowledge of knowing a champion before talking about them.

I think being the 600th best Kindred in the world before dropping Kindred because I knew Kindred would be getting nerfed implies I have good enough knowledge of the champion. I don't know what it is with you gameplay trolls that try to hide on low level accounts and say absolutely stupid shit. But it's fucking hilarious. I give 0 fucks about the lore, or that they're "they/he/she." I'll call Kindred by whatever the fuck I want.

/end.

AstôlfoAug 24, 20161 votes

Yes I get the whole debate and I consider it to be "they", but with the various shitstorms that came up over the entire debate of the correct noun that should be applied, I went with "her" because I know that's what most non-main people go with and they get all prissy if I would use the term "they". Calm down.

They're also collectively a singular representation of death itself. They're two halves of one fact of existence.

KeepeAug 23, 20162 votes

I still say that Kindred's heal would be an alright mechanic if it were retooled to only proc on Neutral Monsters.

AstôlfoAug 23, 20161 votes

Agreed, although it probably should be lower in the first place so it's not just free damageless jungle clears like it used to be basically.

ModWulf HelhammerAug 23, 20161 votes

I think it would be better if it only proced on champions. That means they have he ability they need to invade for marks, but you still need to actually kite mobs if you want to stay healthy in the jungle

CaptnJakSparrowAug 23, 20162 votes

I honestly don't think 30 additional damage to her level 3 combo is going to matter.

The only real significance to this buff is that her clear speed is increased by . . . roughly 2 seconds. Which boils down to a single auto attack.

AstôlfoAug 23, 20162 votes

It's still a buff no matter how minor, which she needs. It's a start at the very least.

CaptnJakSparrowAug 23, 20162 votes

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It's still a buff no matter how minor, which she needs. It's a start at the very least.

If they really want her buffed to be how she's supposed to be played ((or at least from what I'm seeing.)) They should lower the times for her marks and fix some bugs where the creature you kill spontaneously spawns the mark for no reason and then you don't get it.

It doesn't sound like much, but it'll actually, for the first time in fucking history of League when they say this stupid line, separate the good Kindred players from the great Kindred players.

AstôlfoAug 23, 20162 votes

Well yeah. I wish that the heal would come back but in a lot lower amount, or at least that some of her base stats would come back, so that her early jungling isn't so absolute garbage when her getting Hunts relies on early game dueling power.

And yeah, the mark bug thing is dumb.

CaptnJakSparrowAug 23, 20161 votes

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Well yeah. I wish that the heal would come back but in a lot lower amount, or at least that some of her base stats would come back, so that her early jungling isn't so absolute garbage when her getting Hunts relies on early game dueling power.

And yeah, the mark bug thing is dumb.

It could, and I do miss it. But in all honesty, I'd just rather have better numbers.

GULAG 4 UAug 23, 20162 votes

Well meanwhile better keep aatrox in the shit tier cause scrubs don't buy executioner's calling, morellobook, ninja Tabi, thornmail, frozen heart nor randiuns omen. I'm still happy no one is bitching about kindred getting buffed, w00t.

ProfDrDeathAug 24, 20162 votes

I majorly disliked Kindred before due to her massive early strength on a champion that is supposed to be someone who heavily scales into the late-game.

These buffs do not look to reignite these issues. In fact, I'd say that Riot is finally satisfied with the level of her early strength (clear speed, clear healthiness, early game damage to champions) and now looks to put power back into her in a way to fulfill her overall fantasy. And these buffs look (to me, at least) good on that front - more AD growth factor is only a major boon in the later stages (remember, base stats grow in a nonlinear fashion), and %-based damage is also only a major factor in the mid-to-late game.

AstôlfoAug 24, 20162 votes

The issue is she's literally worthless in lategame except as an ult-bot unless she gets her Hunts. And to get said Hunts, she needs a somewhat stronger early so she can actually get them without just suffering at being unable to even clear her own jungle that well let alone invade or kill others. But yeah.