Kassadin needs help.

Chris Chiaki·9/26/2015, 2:37:30 AM·23 votes·1,785 views

His pickrate is extremely low and his winrate dips into the 40% range in Plat+ sometimes.

His early is awful and although he's better late, it's still meh compared to any other meta midlaner ( Diana Viktor Lux Orianna Yasuo).

He's a champion that needs to scale and when he does scale he reaches the same level as other midlaners who are decent all stages of the game. You're basically screwing over your own team for no reason when picking him cause your team won't have a midlaner for 30 minutes.

I feel like if his base damages are going to be rubbish, he could have slightly lower CD's. Change him into a mobile sustained DPS mage instead of a useless assassin.

24 Comments

TurquoiseYoshi9/26/2015, 3:47:32 AM16 votes

He can't really DO anything. Can he spam stuff and hope he gets kills? No. Can he surgically sneak up on someone and assassinate them? No. Can his joke make sense? No.

Scorpionex9/26/2015, 11:30:18 AM6 votes

the reason his ult was nerfed so hard was because it was the last thing on his kit that was taking up a lot of his power budget it needed to be nerfed because then they could give power back to him....they just forgot to do that and you know just left him to rot...he needs to not be so reliant on his ult honestly...

Paero9/26/2015, 11:43:55 AM4 votes

Give him his silence back!

Elephant8889/26/2015, 3:11:47 AM3 votes

I agree. I was (and still am) a huge kassadin fan before the repeated nerfs, such as the higher mana cost ult, the reduced range on ult and the scaling change on his... ult (see a pattern here?). I think he needs some buffs to get back into the game, maybe not to the permaban status he was at before, but at least be made viable and a fun pick. Maybe he should get some form of cc (stun on q, or every 3 autos when w activated) other than a slow to help stick to targets, and a greater ult radius, with a bit higher mana costs to make him viable again? I just want him to viable again :/.

Jeanne fan club9/26/2015, 4:11:59 PM2 votes

My BIGGEST complaint about kassadin is that all his damage is stacked onto his ult. I feel as if most of the ult damage should go to his W, because it is risky to use, and at the moment it is not rewarding until you get lich bane.

LadyRenly9/26/2015, 5:30:32 PM2 votes

I would like SOMETHING done to him. I've been doing my best to make him viable, and I have been having decent success. But no amount of champion skill can truly override the game of numbers, and the numbers are against us Kass fans. I honestly don't think it's his ult that needs changing. I personally hate spamming his ult, so I would naturally prefer a higher CD, longer range riftwalk, but it is what it is I guess.

If you were to ask me, I think he is fine where he is, outside of a few numbers tweaking. I never played Kassadin with silence, and I am fine with him not having it.

Kassadin, while being AP, is a melee, zero range auto attacker(by that I mean he slows, then blinks to a person to stab them in the face). I think slightly buffing his shield(and not the damage of Q) would work wonders for the sustain game, which I think is the only aspect he could use improving. I don't mind him having to ramp up, because he is a late gamer.

A part of me still hates his passive, though. It encourages him to be too counterpicky, and there are too many Zeds and Yasuos to honestly make good use of it.

I PREACHER I9/26/2015, 7:24:40 AM2 votes

Let us please, never bring kassawin back to full form...

GrReaper969/26/2015, 5:54:29 PM2 votes

Remember when kassa could ulti almost twice the distance at lower cd? Yeah back then he was fun

Reformed Dunni9/26/2015, 11:54:13 AM2 votes

I love these boards, constantly complain about Kassadin then he gets nerfed, you cry again and he gets nerfed again, and now you want buffs.

DirkTarTar9/26/2015, 1:47:39 PM2 votes

He should either have better base damages or better ratios OR BOTH would be great

To be honest, Kassadin just needs a lot of love in general to help him actually get to a point where he is meaningful in more situations.

The problem is, Riot has re-classified him as an AP Bruiser rather than an AP Assassin, kind of like how they tried to pidgeon-hole Fizz over the past season. BUT with that re-classification, they have not adjusted his kit to actually make him a useful APB, now he just simply does mediocre damage, with a blinking ability, and an "interrupt" OMG HE HAS AN INTERRUPT -.-

He needs a proper rework, but Riot doesn't really want to invest any time or effort into that because they are too busy doing reworks on the champions in the current meta for them to squeeze some profit out of their work. Performing a rework on Kass in a non-AP-assassin meta would yield them no profit when they could release 'Roid Skarner for the extra monaaaaaaaay

Count Zubat9/27/2015, 3:11:34 PM1 votes

Imo, Riot can safely buff Kassadin a bit and he won't be really overpowered after that. He just got nerfed too much for his ult, which, at the time, was quite insane. I can agree with silence removal, because combined with his high damage (before nerfs) and ult, it created an unhealthy gameplay pattern, but with silence removed, he's not so oppressive anymore. Also, while his ult was super op 1,5 year ago, making him probably the most mobile champ back then, for today's standards, it isn't really so much powerful than other mobility spells in the game. I see no reason for Kassadin to have weak damage because of his mobility, because through last 2 season, we have seen much more mobile champs than Kassadin. But, for some reason, Rito hates this poor guy. If Kassadin stays so weak, who is going to face all those scary monsters from the Void?

Maximum Morde9/26/2015, 4:12:37 PM1 votes

I don't want Season 3 Kassadin back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4fspfAqxz8

Phuc Dat Bich9/26/2015, 4:50:35 PM1 votes

You kass mains need to choose ether mobility or damage!!

Because giving damage to a champion with 3 seconds flash is broken

So yeah kass need a rework he need to lose his mobility to earn damage

You all cry about him doing little damage well guess what imagine kass doing heavy damage and have mobility too

Oh wait we have already going through that phase and kass was 100% ban ratio and 98% win ratio

So yeah gtfo

Ipols9/26/2015, 11:47:57 PM1 votes

Like I said in another thread, I keep playng him in normals and most of the times I get carried or I lose. Am I bad? possible.. But when they'll finally buff him I'll go 20-0

Shroom Junkie9/27/2015, 12:44:40 AM1 votes

Eh, not 30 minutes. Once he reaches about level 6-7 he gets a lot more relevant. Bursts squishies down easily. Great assassin if you play him right, but yeah, playing him myself a lot for fun I must say he does need a few buffs. Not too big though, else he would be OP like the old Kass.

Feathermane9/27/2015, 2:53:06 PM1 votes

Can he still win any lane by spamming Q? Yes. Then he does not need buffs, he is exactly where his trash design requires him to be,