Tahm Kench *needs* these QOL changes

Nebuul··38 votes·2,307 views

I've posted a couple of times how much I love this champion, but there are a few fixes he needs to really be as courteous a gentleman to his player as possible. Please read on for some delectable suggestions:

  1. Give priority on targeting W to enemy champions with 3 stacks of acquired taste. The priority for targeting should be enemy champs > allied champs > minions/monsters. It is so completely frustrating to be chasing a target with your jungler, get a full stack, then eat your jungler instead of the enemy you need to pull away from their tower. Or if a Voli dives your team and ults, it sucks to accidentally grab your top laner instead of the bear so you can negate his ult, etc.
  2. His W spit needs to be fixed on fast activations. Right now, if you eat then spit, it doesn't spit. Instead, the minion or monster collides with nothing (maybe its old position?) and detonates on top of you. This really sucks because you cannot catch enemies off guard easily when they get out-of-position.
  3. His E activation is slow, like Nasus' ult used to be. Frequently I'll hear the bubble sound but still die. Please make it activate instantly just like Nasus now instantly gets health from his ultimate.

If these things were fixed, I think Tahm would basically be complete.

Thanks for your time!

22 Comments

Kouga7 votes

Holy shit. A QoL thread that actually has QoL changes, instead of straight buffs!

Have an upvote, sir.

Davy Crockett7 votes

Can his devour on allies be made with more clarity to the allies on how to exit Kench when swallowed? I had a game where he swallowed me and then tried to feed me to the enemy team. I want clarity on how to control where I am going.

iamthegoatofwar1 votes

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Photos of Ghosts1 votes

Neither of the cases is true rofl

Davy Crockett1 votes

Well. That's a shame lol i didnt get a chance to read it XD

RespectPlus1 votes

What he said, bro?

Photos of Ghosts1 votes

Something on the lines of you can't leaveTahm's W nor Kalista's R

Grouchy Poro2 votes

You right click as if moving. IT took me a few tries to figure it ou, but basically just act like you want to walk out of him and he'll spit you in that direction.

Sozan54 votes
  1. I think this ability should work like any other targeted ability (with the priorities only applicable if multiple units are standing on top of each other) - that is: attempt to eat only the target that was clicked on. Because right now it seems like the ability will eat closest thing it can, if the target is not applicable (so, if for example enemy got back to 2 stacks, or out of range in time - it will still eat something for whatever reason, rather than just ignoring the input at all). Also, if you click with W on nothing, it should eat nothing.

  2. Agreed with that wholly.

  3. No. This ability is too powerful as it is, and it should have at least a small weakness - knowing when to activate it is an important skill. Also, Nasus' ult is an ultimate ability after all vs Tahm Kench's 16-12s cooldown basic ability.

Nebuul4 votes

Regarding (3) -- the counterplay is CC. Tahm cannot use his shield when he is under CC. However, if a Tahm player is not CC'ed and successfully reacts to an attack or ability, so much so that it even plays the bubble sound, I believe he should be rewarded by having his ability work.

Grouchy Poro2 votes

The e delay I do find as being ab it of an issue. I'll try and wait out a bit more damage to try and be sure I survive the last bit of shredding and burst, but then when I hit my shield I die before the shield comes up with all that perfectly good grey health gone to waste :(.

Leaf of the lake2 votes

Give him these QoL changes, but nerf his Q outright. The slow, the damage, something. His kit is currently overtuned because he doesn't have a good QoL, but improving his QoL will make him too strong with his numbers as they are now.

Bârd1 votes

And fix the range indicator on W. It ALWAYS SAYS that it is going to go in melee range.

Nebuul1 votes

Alas, I cannot comment on that because I got sick of the indicator messing up my ability to auto-attack ever since they switched to the new system. Once I hear that bug is fixed, I'll probably go back to indicators.

I don't think I've ever seen an indicator for Tahm's abilities :(

I is Illiterate1 votes

I agree, his Devour interactions need improvement. So hard to devour enemies with 3 stacks. :(

Tengrichan1 votes

Also don't forget to fix his smartcast W not working randomly.

Auz the Ripper1 votes

For Tahm to be in a good place, he needs one of two things Either:

  1. better waveclear, because he has one of the worst waveclears in the game. Although I'm not sure how that could be implemented without braking some other part of him and it would mostly help top tahm

  2. better stickiness; nothing much, like 5% increased MS towards champions for each stack of acquired taste. Enough that no one can simply walk away, but enough that it wouldn't take a lot more effort to escape.

Nebuul1 votes

Tahm's wave clear is fantastic if you max W first.

Auz the Ripper1 votes

You can still be pushed to hell early, and that's really what I meant: terrible early waveclear, which can be pretty abusable weakness top.

Probably should have clarified that, I apologize.

Bytheway, try tahm jungle with cinderhulk, it's pretty fun

TahmKench Expert1 votes

Tahm has a ton of glitches centered around his devour.

  1. Spitting something out too quickly makes it invulnerable

  2. Enemies mid flight to his mouth become invulnerable before they are actually inside him. Causes jungle Tahm to occasionally blow a smite for no damage in a devour smite combo

  3. The glitch with his ultimate still exists in rare situations

  4. Mobs occasionally do not leave his character model and become unable to be hit by his Q unless he moves

TaoistMaster1 votes

This makes a lot of sense. been happening to me and not sure why but makes sense. must just be a bug!

report this under bug fixes. This isn't really a needed QOL change.

Teridax681 votes

I agree with this. In addition, I think it would do good to both TahmKench and his victims if eating an enemy champion with W were to instantly kill them if regurgitating them would deal fatal damage.

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