The difference between S tier champs and A tier champs and below, is way to massive. It has never been this bad before. typically you can play A tier champs competitively with S tier champs. Nope, not anymore. Either you pick S tier champs, or you pray your opponents don't pick S tier champs, because that is literally the deciding factor of every single game ever since the jungle rework.
RekSai CoffeeCo8 votesHopefully they revert the scuttle change and this will one day a few years down the road diversity will come back.
TruelyTrueTrueth1 votes[{quoted}](name=RekSai CoffeeCo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=nnJEHfR0,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-06-09T00:51:50.916+0000)
Hopefully they revert the scuttle change and this will one day a few years down the road diversity will come back.
What are the scuttle changes? I can’t really find it anywhere and I see people talk about it so much. In game I can see that scuttle is easier to kill and gives mana(?) but is that it? Or did they like increase the xp it gives? Pls tell me
Sassmast3r1 votesIt's the fact that there's only one now, and it spawns on one side or another. There used to be one on both sides of the map, and it used to have significantly lower HP, gave less XP (I think...), and was really not a full-blown objective like Baron or Dragon.
Jeddy0171 voteshttps://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/patch/patch-810-notes
- HEALTH ~~800-3920~` (based on level) ⇒ 1200-2480 (based on level)
- NEW TWO CRAB ENTER At initial spawn, Scuttlers will spawn in the top and bottom river. Both must be killed before the respawn timer activates.
Thefrostyviking1 votes[{quoted}](name=RekSai CoffeeCo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=nnJEHfR0,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-06-09T00:51:50.916+0000)
Hopefully they revert the scuttle change and this will one day a few years down the road diversity will come back.
scuttler isnt even the biggest reason diversity got hurt.
Its damage skyrocketing, if some early champs can literally delete the majority of others in the same role when they meet in under a couple of seconds then naturally no sane person would expose themselves to that situation.
Play a tank? Weak early and explodes if found by strong early enemy jungler, also way weak to invades.
Play unusual diver or even a mage? same as the tank for the most part, some divers do have solid early and are part of it all but many are victims all the same.
And from what i heard, now riot are actually buffing tank damage again, so assassin will probably end up useless as they get CC locked and explode.
Yuvn Ti2 votesEven with both being nerfed, khazix always gets destroyed by a graves. as a khazix main it irks me that there isn't counterplay and before you call me a hypocrite, khazix had a 48% win rate pre nerf.
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Giga Baboon2 votesThere are actually kids right now here and on reddit defending irelia.
Ratpie2 votesI have to agree with this. There will always be meta, but I think that is what has frustrated me more than anything this season is that the gap is so large. When I go into jungle it is funny to see how a lot of games goes down. I have gone with some off picks in jungle and have gone to just keep vision on scuttle and a lot of junglers (if they are not the Dueling bully champs) do not even contest scuttle. It is like they have given up on contesting it at all unless they have a dueler.
I think the ADC changes was a good step at bot, but now overdamage needs to be looked at in all lanes. Bring back down the overtuned champs so this game can be healthy again. Reduce the power of some of the AD burst items so that champs kits will be relevant again.
Astorine1 votesExact truth.
My Waifu Vanilla1 votesThis only really applies to jungle though. Look at almost any other role. Hell in the SAME patch we are in right now where jungle is very narrow (which it has ALWAYS been lets not kid ourselves here and frankly like 6-8 strong junglers as it stands right now is on the high end compared to Sejuani or Zac only) we have literally anything you want going bot lane because it can.
