What beats the Lucian Alistar lane right now?

Id Bang Morgana·3/3/2016, 12:43:28 PM·3 votes·2,644 views

With Alistar's combo being super easy now, and will thunder lord's and fervor being common on Lucian, how exactly do you win this lane? I've tried playing Sivir into that, but it doesn't matter that I spell shield since the combo will just auto stun you after the headbutt. If you play something longer range like Caitlyn, Alistar just ignores everything, walks up, does his easy combo, and Lucian can very easily follow up for huge damage. Any tips that would help in this lane? INB4 2nd item

24 Comments

ItsCalledALance3/3/2016, 1:25:29 PM3 votes

Competence. That wins every lane match up.

KogMaw puke and walk away from them.

Randomonium3/3/2016, 12:59:41 PM2 votes

Any support who can disrupt either Alistair or Lucian works well. Braum, Morgana, Thresh, Blitz, Naut, Lux, etc.

I even ran into a Fiddle support who just made life miserable for AD casters like Lucian because he can either silence or fear them any time they try to do their combo.

Bootleg Gay3/3/2016, 12:59:39 PM2 votes

If you're playing the marksman, I suggest Tristana .

Her longer range is good for keeping Alistar at a distance, and Rocket Jump helps you get away easy. You also have her ultimate, which keeps Lucian farther away than his short range would like. Be sure to heavy focus Lucian though; if they go in, attach a an Explosive Charge to Lucian, hit him a few times, then Rocket Jump on top of him. Alistar is weak once he uses his combo, so he won't be able to defend Lucian.

If you're playing the support, I suggest Janna Or Leona .

Janna can shield Tristana when she goes in, and her slow keeps Lucian in a place more preferred. Her ultimate is a good way to recover and help you keep fighting, and Howling Gale, when timed right, can stop Alistar's Headbut. Remember though, when Janna uses Monsoon, don't run. Tristana thrives better when she keeps going, and the heal should be sufficient enough to allow you that time.

Leona is the more aggressive counterpart, but works well with Tristana's all in pattern. Once Alistar goes in, Leona can grab Lucian, then you two can focus him together. Since Alistar won't have any crowd control left to use, Lucian will likely be hit hard by this, and he'll be forced to run. Leona also has a much stronger ultimate for dueling, since it actually has an effect other than a self buff.

Hope this helps.

ArlanKels3/3/2016, 1:29:52 PM2 votes

There is only one who can save you. One who can guide you. One who can show you the way.

Anivia

darkmatchwaldo3/3/2016, 3:27:34 PM1 votes

Morgana

Masala Chai3/3/2016, 3:29:39 PM1 votes

Kalista Morgana Vayne Braum Ezreal in general.

Hayaishi23/3/2016, 3:49:10 PM1 votes

What beats an alistar lane you mean, he is incredibly broken right now.

Darkwind3/3/2016, 3:51:30 PM1 votes

Janna

Just Q his W. EZ.

Skia Asteri3/3/2016, 9:35:26 PM1 votes

Caitlyn Nami

DingleNutsMcGee3/3/2016, 9:39:22 PM1 votes

Vayne & Janna maybe. Vayne wrecks Lucian typically. And Janna can disengage the Alistar engage. Idk just my thoughts

Sohleks3/3/2016, 9:40:34 PM1 votes

Morgana Morgana Morgana Morgana Morgana Morgana Morgana Morgana Morgana

Jazzyforcefield3/3/2016, 9:41:24 PM1 votes

Alistar headbutt is slow enough to be condemned by Vayne.

EcchiOtakuTM3/3/2016, 11:15:25 PM1 votes

No adc can do it by themselves it's all on the support.

Boomerangbro3/4/2016, 3:36:03 AM1 votes

Ezreal Taric . Yeah Alistar, you headbutt that Taric into your Lucian. I get a free ride!

1st Movement3/3/2016, 12:55:37 PM1 votes

Vayne and lulu try that or vayne and Bruam

Elisza Kitsune3/4/2016, 3:40:15 AM1 votes

Blitz and a crazy adc like kog ;) or an experienced vayne

56552559_DEL3/3/2016, 12:58:34 PM1 votes

Actually, Caitlyn and any stun or hook champ like Annie, Leona, Thresh, Nautilus, Blitz, Morgana, Taric etc. Would absolutely work against Lucian and Alistar.

You should not be getting caught out by the Alistar as a Caitlyn because not only do you have your traps but you also have your net to shoot you backward out of harms way. If you play against Alistar enough then you will start being able to predict when he wants to flash pulverize and headbutt you backward. But if you are that concerned, Vayne also works against both of them as well as with the above mentioned supports.

Id Bang Morgana3/3/2016, 1:15:31 PM1 votes

Thank you for the suggestions so far, but what do you do if Alistar just walks up and starts zoning you off the wave? Lets say I have a support leona and she goes on him for some free damage, and I follow up. Then Alistar just shrugs it off and combos me into lucian damage, unless my support and I are approaching this incorrectly. Also, I've tried netting out of the Alistar headbutt, but it seems hard to use that as a reaction to the headbutt since its rather quick and the net takes days to cast when you have some fat kid charging at you. And traps seem like they're nice to use against him, but you need a lot of them quickly to keep control of the brush and even then, once he clears them its a kind of stalemate since you don't want to walk up to brush hes in.

MunchCrunchLunch3/3/2016, 2:52:30 PM1 votes

blitzcrank with ap runes and thunderlords. instagib them and snowball.