can sterraks gage become melee only please?

agbudar·Nov 28, 2016·15 votes·1,346 views

not like anyone building it at this point except for a select few champions

i never even bother buying it on on whom i should be buying it.

22 Comments

oSEXYPLATYPUSoNov 28, 20162 votes

why should it be melee only?

agbudarNov 28, 20164 votes

ranged adc abused it then it got nerfed now no one uses it.

oSEXYPLATYPUSoNov 28, 20161 votes

i get it on j4 and trundle

love it on sion

item 3748 item 3053 stacked together is op

agbudarNov 28, 20162 votes

yea but sion scales extremely well with such items, most others don't really.

oSEXYPLATYPUSoNov 28, 20161 votes

it works together and if you dont see how on champs other then sion

hmm

[zombie-brand-facepalm]

Critmaster GarenNov 28, 20164 votes

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why should it be melee only?

so they can actually buff it without taking a risk that graves is picking it up again.

and by the way. in higher divisions, jarvan and sion arent picking it up either.

"but gnar and jayce"

a) fuck jayce. he didnt ever pick the item up even when it was strong. he doesnt need it. he doesnt even want it. its not even aimed at him. why should he be taken into consideration before the champions the item was designed for?

b) gnar can still get the passive in melee form. he shouldnt have access to it in ranged form for the same reason every other ranged champion shouldnt have access to it. hes supposed to be vulnerable to burst while hes a ranged, mobile kiting machine, and steraks is an anti-burst item for immobile melee bruisers.

oSEXYPLATYPUSoNov 28, 20161 votes

its meant as tanky defensive item

it isnt meant to be a go to damage item

Critmaster GarenNov 28, 20161 votes

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its meant as tanky defensive item

it isnt meant to be a go to damage item

its meant to be both. its supposed to be a core item for slow melee bruisers (juggernauts).

oSEXYPLATYPUSoNov 28, 20161 votes

its not meant to be a stand alone item. it is meant just like other items to work in a synergy making items strong based on stats from other items or champs stats and abilities

+25% base ad is pretty decent

OglafNov 28, 20165 votes

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why should it be melee only?

Because it was severely nerfed exclusively because ranged Champs abused it.

oSEXYPLATYPUSoNov 28, 20162 votes

its meant as tanky defensive item

it isnt meant to be a go to damage item

Big LincolnNov 28, 20161 votes

that isn't what anyone is arguing

it got nerfed to be less valuable as a defensive item by losing 100 HP. almost no champs would want this over maw right now

oSEXYPLATYPUSoNov 28, 20161 votes

i get it on trundle and j4 and get it with item 3748 it makes my basic attacks stronger... and it increases the damage on due to the hp and it makes you harder to kill

Big LincolnNov 28, 20161 votes

it's still less valuable than it was, only nerfed because champions like graves were stupid with it. the intended users were not a problem.

oSEXYPLATYPUSoNov 28, 20161 votes

oh well

adapt and learn

make adjustments

defensive items shouldnt be subjected to a certain class of champ

its kinda saying make it where only squishy champs non bruisers and tanks able to get a GA

or champs who have passives or abilities that keeps them from dying not able to get a GA

the boards are just one complaint after another the game changes and learn to change with it or cry

Critmaster GarenNov 28, 20161 votes

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oh well

adapt and learn

make adjustments

defensive items shouldnt be subjected to a certain class of champ

its kinda saying make it where only squishy champs non bruisers and tanks able to get a GA

or champs who have passives or abilities that keeps them from dying not able to get a GA

the boards are just one complaint after another the game changes and learn to change with it or cry

its not the same. steraks gage has been designed with a specific purpose in mind and is targeted at specific champions.

the same way support items are targeted at specific champions. if you think theyll keep item 3107 viable for other champions than heal supports, then good luck.

item 3026 was designed as a general purpose item for all champions, and is a different case because of that.

oSEXYPLATYPUSoNov 28, 20161 votes

how can they make that item a support item only when so many different type of champs are played as a support?

Critmaster GarenNov 28, 20161 votes

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how can they make that item a support item only when so many different type of champs are played as a support?

i was takling about support class champions (or enchanters) like Soraka Janna Sona

they usually accomplish that by making it less stat efficient for other champions. it will probably get its health nerfed to not be picked up by tanks and bruisers.

and steraks is generally shit right now. its not effective enough anymore since bruisers lost about 400 to 500 health off their items since the start of season 6.

oSEXYPLATYPUSoNov 28, 20161 votes

i say let champs have access to all items

and as far as item 3053 is concerned its 2600 gold , a easy build path and gives 400 hp and 25% bonus ad that scales with champ level so rushing it on a champ who can effectively use it and has abilities that scale on base ad make it more effective

let alone the passive when it triggers gives your another bonus 25% base ad for a total of 50% bonus base ad so if you are someone like mundo combined with his E which gives more ad based on lower hp and trigger the passive of this item would make his autos REALLY REALLY STRONG

Critmaster GarenNov 28, 20161 votes

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i say let champs have access to all items

the needs of the champions an item is targeted at should be taken into consideration first. if the only way the item can be buffed to be slot and cost effective would cause it to be more effective for champions its not targeted at, then there is an issue with that philosophy.

all champions are not equal and do not equally synergize with items. sometimes like in cases of the hydra items, and steraks, this means an item has to be restricted to prevent certain champions from abusing it.

nerfing the item until nobody wants it, like riot did is not the solution.

oSEXYPLATYPUSoNov 28, 20162 votes

another thing...

for champs that can use item 3025 or item 3078 getting item 3053 helps with damage from the sheen proc on the next auto which is based of base ad for bonus damage and increasing your base ad by 25% would increase the sheen proc bonus damage by 25%