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Azubk ""Le blanc is feeling week right now""

Poske··2 votes·466 views

WELL NOT SHIT THATS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU REVERT A CHAMPION (47% winrate before rework) BUT SLAP AROUND 7 NERFS ON HER WHICH STRIP HER POWER AWAY

AzuBK provided context and a changelist for LeBlanc: "LeBlanc is feeling on the weak side right now, especially in early lane due to lack of lane control (having trouble finding windows for aggression). Looking to address that through non-damage changes if possible. Also right now RQ is dominating Mimic choice structure. CL below" "W Cooldown :: 18/16/14/12/10 >>> 14/13/12/11/10 W Mana :: 80/90/100/110/120 >>> 60/75/90/105/120 RE Initial Damage :: 60/120/180 (+0.3 AP) >>> 70/140/210 (+0.4 AP) RE Root Damage :: 120/240/360 (+0.6 AP) >>> 140/280/420 (+0.8 AP) RW AP Ratio :: 0.6 >>> 0.75" "Also sorted out the range indicator mismatch on E vs RE"

And this garbage he is doing is horrible 0/10 way of buffing her You have a big part of power budget left and all you do is some fking number changes XDDDDDD

How about increasing her fking deception which is going back to stone age

** Rip Le blanc Mimic clone 2k18 **

Put back HER fking clone on Mimic cast (NOT SHADOW OF A ROSE) and viola she is viable

RQ is dominating mimic choise structure of bad le blanc players, you shouldnt be collecting such data because none has idea what they are doing on any version of Le blanc. You should try collecting data from good LE BLANC players because I used Mimiced W the most on old Le blanc (W40,30,30 SPLIT).

Legitimetly feel bad for every good Le blanc player atm

I SUGGESTED NONE DAMAGE CHANGES For Le blanc MILION TIMES since revert details you may want to look up for those.

9 Comments

vgamedude2 votes

I love how champs like leblanc need "delayed burst" and "counterplay" but then adcs out damage you in a few unmissable autos.

Logical

Malza3 votes

The adc normally doesn't jump away 20x and perma kite you if you are a bruiser

Poske2 votes

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The adc normally doesn't jump away 20x and perma kite you if you are a bruiser

I made a thread suggesting Le blanc buffs and nerfs

One of the nerfs was reducing her chain duration to 1s from 1.5s (or making it scale granted she maxes it last) (from 1.5) given how anti melee she is

Did you guys know that Le blanc is a mobile champion who can root you the same ammount of time Morgana can at both her reverted and reworked state

Anyway ADC definetly cannot jump 1500 range (Well except Quinn and Kaisa to extent) and one shot something like Le blanc can, infact none can perhaps AP zac?

Reggardless of that I am not saying current ADC BPS and high relevance low agency situation is fine.

Delayed burst is fine Counterplay is fine

The fact that she is losing her trickiness given the delayed burst and counterplay isnt

vgamedude2 votes

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The adc normally doesn't jump away 20x and perma kite you if you are a bruiser

Bull. Tristana can literally w away from you and kill you in the time she's away, or if you somehow live long enough to actually get close to her ignoring her other teammates she can just R you away at that point.

The implication leblanc is in any way more powerful than adcs is just laughable.

Poske4 votes

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I love how champs like leblanc need "delayed burst" and "counterplay" but then adcs out damage you in a few unmissable autos.

Logical

Revert delays her even harder thats the funny part only The best of the best Le blanc players ll know, not ony she is getting delayed harder but she is losing her trick tools.

I can explain why. I am not saying this changes are bad per say but they are massive nerfs nowhere compensated

  • Backloading E damage straight up kills her burst WRQE AND WQRE combo. I hope gunblade le blanc players are happy, they are the ones who started this uproar of Le blanc cant assassinate ):::
  • Live Le blanc can do a single dash followed by a chain into another dash. Reverted Le blanc ll use her most delayed ability ussualy as her last strike
  • Backloading RQ. Again i am not against backloading the damage I am against removal of her trickiness given that delay is getting magnified
  • Removal of item 3145 item 3100 abuse which were her best damage spikes (clone procs them on top of real le blanc)

Her damage is going down Her mobility is going down Her freedom is going down Her delay is getting magnified (altough this is not obvious to most) Her worst case scenarios are getting worse Her trickiness is going back to gimmick stone age which none but perhaps me ll abuse properly (passive clone stuff) Her mana costs are going UP

But hey atleast we can Max Distortion first again !!!! very relevant positive change given the above

But this fking Gunblade AZBUK le blanc player who doesnt even play Le blanc IS SHOCKED GET THIS .. FKING SHOCKED SHE IS UNDERPERFORMING AT PBE

I would like her revert canceled at current point

IP Masquerena1 votes

Azu said that pressing 2 buttons is too hard, so what do you expect from him?

He's the only Rioteer that I actively hate and have a good reason for it. Bad wording or intentional, he said it, and thanks to that, and him listening only to the old LB players that want instagib back, because new LB is too mechanically complex for them, we lose both versions of LB, or maybe get an even more toxic form of old LB.

Yet people cry about the guy who works on Ahri, because he tests too much...

But as long as the revent is delayed, I can at least still enjoy the current LeBlanc, before I'll have to shelve her, if the revert does happen.

Poske1 votes

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Azu said that pressing 2 buttons is too hard, so what do you expect from him?

He's the only Rioteer that I actively hate and have a good reason for it. Bad wording or intentional, he said it, and thanks to that, and him listening only to the old LB players that want instagib back, because new LB is too mechanically complex for them, we lose both versions of LB, or maybe get an even more toxic form of old LB.

Yet people cry about the guy who works on Ahri, because he tests too much...

But as long as the revent is delayed, I can at least still enjoy the current LeBlanc, before I'll have to shelve her, if the revert does happen.

Out of curiousy you found out about clone on hit abuse from me Right? I mean I found out about it the day after it became possible so like 1 year Ago, and posted a build bunch of times on boards

We already talked about 2 buttom thingy. I dont fault him for that I just dont wanna lose a clone, using last ability ensures Le blanc isnt to adaptable but removal of clone hurts.

For example sometimes I would dash backwards. Prep ultimate in advance then I would want to get back on a dash but since I already preped ultimate i first have to cast ultimates, I can understand how can that be annoying, I can give you 3 more examplse which I know happen to people

Granted it barely happend to me there are like 4 annoyances I can list you which pissed people off so whatever IDC about it

IP Masquerena1 votes

Yes, I did learn of that from you, so thanks for that :D

I know both versions of LeBlanc had combos and all, and I know it can be annoying, but the way he worded it makes me despise him, that's why I said that idk if it was just bard wording and he didn't ment to say it the way he did, or maybe he did mean to.

I for one had no annoyances with her current R, had a few small issues when learning her for the first time, but after that it wasn't a problem. I also don't find her 1.5 s cook time annoying, but for those who do, I once suggested the removal of the 5 s cd per target, but lowering the damage on it to an extent that it would be almost the same damage in over the 6.5 s total, but it would feel more fluid for them, even tho the total damage is the same.

I still need to get better at her, but then again, noone can be perfect so we all have room to improve, but I will only focus on improving on her while she is in the current state, or a middle ground of the current and old, but if she gets a full revert, I feel sorry, but I will shelve her, as I said, I just can't stand the old LB. (Mind if I add you so you can give me some tips?)

Poske1 votes

I mean he inteligently manipulated players with that wording, because with such its hard to be oposed

He said that she ll be getting partial revert. What he should have said is that she is getting a full revert with 6-7 nerfs because thats what happend.

Yes you can add me :)

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