Jinx and Vayne are dominating in Pick& Win rate

Altricad·Aug 22, 2015·4 votes·758 views

Better nerf

I'm not salty or anything that kalista is getting nerfs ( maybe then, the "kalista mains" will stop playing her) but the fact that Jinx and Vayne are going un-touched is infuriating They're both hyper late-game carries and yet they need 1 item before they destroy everything in the map ( / ) And for some reason, adcs on my team never pick either of them. It's always this Sivir, Graves or Miss Fortune

No srsly, Friggin pls stop taking Mf in ranked unless rito decides to make her ult an actual ult and not her "E" version 2

Hopefully these Draven buffs might change stuff. I'm just tired of seeing Vayne and Jinx, every game make it easily past laning phase and then carrying games 1 vs 5 with their teammates afking in front of them as meat-shields during teamfights

7 Comments

ValyrianBladeAug 22, 20153 votes

Jinx has been nerfed a few times this season already. First the ultimate semi nerf, then the attack speed nerf on her q. Finally, the new randuins will reduce all crits damage by 10%, same by the mastery, so even with i.e. her crits will only do 200% to tanks instead of 250%.

Vayne has been untouched for ages. She's beatable, but I'd understand a slight nerf there. Sivir and graves have both been quite strong this season too though, especially graves counters jinx.

AltricadAug 22, 20151 votes

Sivir's lack of range really puts the hurt on her tho, especially with all the bruiser item buffs. And for graves, his w mana cost is crippling in the early game, where if you get shut down in lane you're pretty useless for the whole game. Feel like they could slightly reduce the mana cost on his defensive ability at least

ValyrianBladeAug 23, 20151 votes

The main marksman that abuses adcs with short range is Caitlyn, who Sivir hard counters. Honestly, the sole reason I stopped maining Caitlyn adc and took up Jinx was that I was sick of first/second picking Caitlyn and having to play against Sivir all the time.

I've played a little sivir. The AS buff on her W (passive from R) gives her a sweet burst of damage, and her Q has some really good poke. Her E is also excellent at negating poke. For someone who's only real weakness is short range, she wins poke wars far too easily. Not to mention the engage her R gives any time.

Graves is supposed to be completely useless if he gets shut down in lane (like Caitlyn). He has a laning phase kit, he's meant to win lane hard. I mean, he's an ADC with burst, mobility from his dash, and a smokescreen slow + vision denial. It would be hard to make an ADC have a better kit for laning unless you just gave them a large basic attack range (aka Caitlyn, who exists and is in the same boat).

Aeolian MelodiesAug 22, 20153 votes

Kalista is banned in over half the pro games.

searchman15Aug 22, 20151 votes

That's due to her ability to secure objectives, not because of her extreme fighting power.

A Miss FortuneAug 22, 20151 votes

It's because she has no fall offs. Just look at Kalista and what point of the game does she fall off at?

She surely isn't bad early game since her Sentinels prevent her from ever being ganked, her W passive on top of her Rend still lets her outtrade every ADC in the game, and her mobility is too much for anyone to handle even Vayne.

Her mid game is scary strong since she has an AoE 2 second knockup that can be followed up by someone like Alistar for another round of knockups plus whenever there is a Kalista she basically has a 2,000 - 3,000 Baron/Dragon smite with her Rend so Kalista's team ALWAYS secures it.

Her late game is just cancer because every time you throw a skillshot at her she's halfway across the map. And god forbid she has more than 1.0 attack speed or she will throw 20 stacks of Rend at you before you're even able to attack her.

Extremely safe, extremely high damage, the most mobile champions in the game, strong in duels or teamfighting. There's a reason why she has a 70%+ ban rate.