You can't nerf ad fizz and expect ap fizz to become good...

Buttigieg 2020·Mar 31, 2015·6 votes·555 views

Their is a reason people play ad fizz over ap. AP GOT GUTTED SO BADLY YOU GET REPORTED FOR PICKING HIM. Riot just nerfed fizz's w and reverted the buff to his q on pbe. If riot is listening, please keep the ratio on his q to .5. .3 is so terrible for a late game hyper carry.

I understand riot is skeptical about buffing fizz but the fact that people are playing ad fizz over his ap counterpart should say something about how badly he was nerfed.

6 Comments

Mostro GalloMar 31, 20151 votes

What? Fizz is not a hyper carry

youngjake93Mar 31, 20151 votes

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What? Fizz is not a hyper carry

Honestly he is... That's probably why Riot is nerfing him. If you win lane with Fizz(which is really hard if you are equally skilled, but easy if a little better), then you can go around killing everything on the map. Old AP Fizz and AD Fizz both were like that. Riot is trying to enforce his assassin role rather than him being a hyper carry because they believe it is healthier to only kill 1 person easily instead of 3.

Idk I don't mind him as a hyper carry tho. You always needed like 3+ items to actually transition from assassin into hyper carry and the game can be over at that point anyway if you didn't snowball.

Buttigieg 2020Mar 31, 20151 votes

Old ap fizz was most definitely a hyper carry.

Malix FarwinMar 31, 20151 votes

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Old ap fizz was most definitely a hyper carry.

really dont want to talk about old ap fizz because he no longer exist. New ap fizz, there is really no reason to take him over any other mage or assassin or anything at all really, i think even bard has more to offer then ap fizz.

Imagine if zed had mana, lost his range poke, sustain, and pushing power. His ult no longer was point and click but a slow moving skillshot and his shadows had a CD going in and out and you will have the current AP fizz.

IcyPepperMar 31, 20151 votes

I don't see why he can't be like Ezreal or Jax and just be a hybrid carry/assassin. Is item 3078 part of his core build?

kcStrangerMar 31, 20151 votes

Just FYI if you're looking at the PBE: Fizz's live value for the Q is 0.3. The PBE change is just a reversion of a buff they were testing. The current PBE Fizz is actually a pure buff from the live version because part of the W active got moved to the passive.