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being an assassin with tabi + dead man and still dying in 2sec to a Xayah with 2 items and a half with no penetration And don't even ask me why the fuck is a support Lulu dealing true damage
Jamaree7 votesBecause an assassin should be able to tank right?
Lets have shrex1 votesBecause an assassin should be able to tank right?
So what's the point of defensive items ? wasted slots ?
Ralanr2 votesDeadman's is a wasteful item on an assassin generally. Plus ADC's DPS are stronger against armor since it's shredding.
Madsin251 votesThey are to be built on the few tanks that are in the game.
The only real good one atm is 
Jamaree4 votes[{quoted}](name=Lets have shrex,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=nGEnvmQQ,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2018-07-08T14:58:36.802+0000)
So what's the point of defensive items ? wasted slots ?
Buy a better defensive item, Randuin would have been a far better option in that case as it both slows AS along with providing health and armor, this one is on you.
Lets have shrex2 votesBuy a better defensive item, Randuin would have been a far better option in that case as it both slows AS along with providing health and armor, this one is on you.
K so basically "you bought 2 defensive items but that shouldn't make you tankier" ok then this meta is literally "blow your enemy up the fastest possible"
Jamaree4 votes[{quoted}](name=Lets have shrex,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=nGEnvmQQ,comment-id=0001000000020000,timestamp=2018-07-08T15:14:33.195+0000)
K so basically "you bought 2 defensive items but that shouldn't make you tankier" ok then this meta is literally "blow your enemy up the fastest possible"
I'm saying that you can buy a better item to stay alive longer but chose one that itemizes poorly with the rest of your kit. What are you asking for here, and look at the flipside, if you could build tanky like that, but still do the damage of an assassin AND survive, don't you think people would complain that ADCs or damage is useless?
Lets have shrex1 votesI'm saying that you can buy a better item to stay alive longer but chose one that itemizes poorly with the rest of your kit. What are you asking for here, and look at the flipside, if you could build tanky like that, but still do the damage of an assassin AND survive, don't you think people would complain that ADCs or damage is useless?
No, but at least survive for 5sec
Jamaree4 votes[{quoted}](name=Lets have shrex,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=nGEnvmQQ,comment-id=000100000002000000000000,timestamp=2018-07-08T15:18:26.993+0000)
No, but at least survive for 5sec
So you should be able to build one subpar for your character armor item, and one good armor item, and be able to facetank a squishy who is building full damage and is ahead of you mind you while also being able to burst them...because you are an assassin so that is what you are gonna do, is that what you are saying?
Lets have shrex1 votesSo you should be able to build one subpar for your character armor item, and one good armor item, and be able to facetank a squishy who is building full damage and is ahead of you mind you while also being able to burst them...because you are an assassin so that is what you are gonna do, is that what you are saying?
"ahead" ? I was 14/12. I have 3 complete items, she has 2,5 items.
Jamaree5 votes[{quoted}](name=Lets have shrex,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=nGEnvmQQ,comment-id=00010000000200000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-07-08T15:23:02.344+0000)
"ahead" ? I was 14/12. I have 3 complete items, she has 2,5 items.
And she had two completed items, I ask again, is what you want for assassins to be able to facetank while bursting squishies?
Lets have shrex1 votesAnd she had two completed items, I ask again, is what you want for assassins to be able to facetank while bursting squishies?
So why are squishies able to facetank against ap champions when they get 
or 
or 
when these are offensive items ?
Jamaree5 votes[{quoted}](name=Lets have shrex,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=nGEnvmQQ,comment-id=0001000000020000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-07-08T15:28:58.692+0000)
So why are squishies able to facetank against ap champions when they get
In what world? If they are far ahead, yeah, they can facetank, if not, no AP champion is not going to pop them.
DuskDaUmbreon2 votesLolwat
What squishy is going to facetank an AP champion dealing 150%+ of their max health with only 1 of 3 hybrid damage/survivability items?
Sure, Maw will do that in lane, but that's because you devoted your first item to surviving them. PD isn't letting you facetank, it's going to let you get away better and die slower from whatever hits you regardless. DD only delays the death, and gives you an opportunity to fight back and possibly survive.
Lets have shrex1 votesAnd she had two completed items, I ask again, is what you want for assassins to be able to facetank while bursting squishies?
Also weren't you the same guy saying 
hard counters AD ?
Jamaree4 votes[{quoted}](name=Lets have shrex,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=nGEnvmQQ,comment-id=0001000000020000000000000000000000000001,timestamp=2018-07-08T15:30:39.597+0000)
Also weren't you the same guy saying
No, but I do say that you SHOULD rush Zhonya vs AD champions as a mage especially if you are having trouble in the match up. Give me one good reason why a mage shouldn't and wouldn't buy Zhonya?
saltran4 votesto a Xayah with 2 items and a half with no penetration
Ignoring the 468 dmg from Quinn and the 123 dmg from Lulu yes, it was the Xayah who deleted you.
Lets have shrex1 votesIgnoring the 468 dmg from Quinn and the 123 dmg from Lulu yes, it was the Xayah who deleted you.
Quinn damage were done earlier Lulu damage are from her shield I still had 2k hp
Atmosphere4 votesThe Death Recap right there says that Lulu and Quinn also assisted. Lulu shield and polymorph, plus Quinn and Xayah damage, what did you expect? You bit off more than you could chew and died. Nobody's fault but your own.
CrestfallenNight4 votesAssassins complaining HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Arìes Wínd3 votesYou are rengar that mean someone that doesnt scale of armor, that doesnt mean if you go full tank or offtank you will be able to tank an adc or an other assassin damage. Riot direction's towards tanks item in season 6 was clear. They nerfed the health and buffed the armor to make it so squishy cant become a real tank.
Lets have shrex1 votes[{quoted}](name=Arìes Wínd,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=nGEnvmQQ,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-07-08T14:55:55.155+0000)
You are rengar that mean someone that doesnt scale of armor, that doesnt mean if you go full tank or offtank you will be able to tank an adc or an other assassin damage. Riot direction's towards tanks item in season 6 was clear. They nerfed the health and buffed the armor to make it so squishy cant become a real tank.
I bought 2 defensive items, and I shouldn't be blown up by a 
who flashed out of my AA range to 3 shot me
saltran1 votesYes
Madsin252 votesYou should have bought another offensive item and went for the one shots.
That is literally how you play this game. Incase you missed the last 6 months.
Lets have shrex1 votesI love that if I had posted the same screenshot the other way around of a 
building 
and me dealing absolutly no damage to him, everyone would have thought this is just normal "because he bought a defensive item"
