I have to admit that Spear + DD is a cool interaction. But it's basically URF Mode.

FCJAAAAGOOOO··4 votes·903 views

They turn melee top laners into literal blenders. This needs to chill.

Illaoi, Darius and Renekton already had item 3053 for securing their lead after stomping their lane. Now they have this combo to win games with 1v10 afterwards. These and melee top hypercarries like Riven and Jax are only going to see increased winrates and banrates until these items are significantly changed.

The combo's fun, I'll admit. It really is. It's cool, too! People love URF for a reason. But let's be real: there's no counterplay to it that doesn't involve destroying them in laning phase (which these champions easily glide through). There's zero agency around the combo as well except to never let these champions get remotely close to anyone, lest they die and a half of their life bar now becomes theirs. Nothing about the combo (especially alongside new Conqueror) is interactive besides being fun to look at. It has to get adjusted.

The sustain isn't so much the problem as the CDR is. Spear and DD don't deserve to grant 30% CDR together - in fact CDR should be a much rarer commodity on non-AP items than it currently is. It is nothing short of ridiculous how easy it is to earn 40% CDR on absolutely everyone right now.

Please consider lowering the CDR on these items and nerfing the raw potential of Dragon Spear - 50% on-hit for 6 seconds is a bit ridiculous as well.

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SuicidePlank2 votes

Ye, who doensn't know Spear + DD Darius. Do you even know how trash tier he is right now after Conq is gone? And also that you build neither Spear nor Deaths Dance(rarely, not if you aren't 10/0 and win anyway) on him?

Raiko Horikawa2 votes

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Ye, who doensn't know Spear + DD Darius. Do you even know how trash tier he is right now after Conq is gone? And also that you build neither Spear nor Deaths Dance(rarely, not if you aren't 10/0 and win anyway) on him?

Didn't most people use HoB or Phase Rush anyways?

Critmaster Garen2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Raiko Horikawa,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=nF2QIhVE,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-03-06T07:34:26.890+0000)

Didn't most people use HoB or Phase Rush anyways?

the old conqueror was his main rune. hail of blades and phase rush were niche picks.

kingDeDeDarius1 votes

Yeah...Darius rarely builds DD and never builds SoS unless already stomping....post completely off point. Now if you want to complain about riven or Jax or maybe even you running SoS, then that's a reasonable complaint.

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