What if there had been a "Rewind" Summoner Spell that reset the cooldowns on your basic abilities?

darkdill·Sep 16, 2018·8 votes·7,462 views

One of the level 20 talents you can get on some Heroes in HotS is called Rewind, and it resets the cooldowns on all your basic abilities. Great on Heroes like Anub'arak or Nova, letting them cycle their combos twice in quick succession.

Now imagine if we had a similar Summoner Spell.

Resets the cooldown on your most recently-used basic ability. 240-300 second cooldown.

On some Champions, I know it'd probably be completely broken (i.e. ), but it'd certainly be entertaining, wouldn't it? Who would you use it on?

I'm sure Riot won't add this, but this is just for theorycrafting.

36 Comments

meowwow7Sep 16, 201813 votes

Zilean double bombing intensifies

Dorans PantsSep 16, 20182 votes

{quoted}

double bombing intensifies

wouldn´t it be a quadruple bombing since the W resets as well? But yeah, this was the first thing that came to my mind too. [sg-ezreal]

Sona PingSep 16, 20186 votes

Morgana "Hey there. I heard you didn't like moving."

iPooUnicornsSep 16, 20185 votes

Laughs in Karthus

iiGazeiiSep 16, 20184 votes

It would certainly be on the same level of usefulness as Flash, maybe even more so. Perhaps over-capping CDR to like, 400% for one second would be better, similar to Lethal Tempo. That way, it's still a moment of being able to use a lot of abilities, but champs with long cooldowns wouldn't get those long cooldowns back for free.

I'd love to see them stratify the summoner spell slots. Make one the "main" spell that is designed to be more powerful than the other (e.g., Flash, Rewind, that dash from Onslaught), while the other is a weaker, more utility-based one (e.g., Heal, Barrier, Cleanse).

This separation would mean that the other summoners are not competing with Flash, just with each other, and give them the ability to say "We don't want to you take X powerful summoner with Flash, so they occupy the same slot".

ZT XperimentorSep 20, 20181 votes

Interesting idea, and agree such a hypothetical spell would be comparable to flash. Would be an excuse to bring back the removed spells at least, improve them so they're worth picking anyway.

FOR JUSTICESep 16, 20184 votes

Blitzcrank (laughs in hook)

Lulu double shield or invalidating 2 champions

and ofc anyone with CC gets an immediate CC chain for days

FlameHalbrdOkidoSep 16, 20181 votes

{quoted}

(laughs in hook)

Blitz with Flash and Rewind = Pull, Flash backwards, Rewind, Pull again

We now know why Rewind doesn't exist even if Ult abilities were off limits.

double shield or invalidating 2 champions

and ofc anyone with CC gets an immediate CC chain for days

and Dont forget Ornn with Brittle, double doubling the CC duration

darkdillSep 16, 20181 votes

I don't think Brittle stacks.

PhDs NutsSep 16, 20184 votes

Garen Renekton Jax Nasus

........ Zoe

mrmeddymanSep 16, 20183 votes

Thresh Hook + Flay

try to limp away

REWIND

HOOK + FLAY

Thresh "I like ya and I want ya..."

BLACK REALM GODSep 16, 20182 votes

Illaoi ...

FullmetallicSep 16, 20182 votes

Riven OwO?

StephenizgodSep 16, 20182 votes

Every Assassin would need to be removed from the game, nearly every Burst Mage too.

A lot of Fighters, like Riven Fiora Irelia and Jax, would be beyond busted.

Caster ADC's like Lucian and Ezreal would be god-tier. Supports like Alistar, Blitz, Thresh, Nami, Zilean, Morgana, Rakan, and all other supports would be impossible to deal with.

Basically this would literally break the game. There would be no more Summoners, it would be Flash and Rewind on every champion except Junglers. Fights are already over in 2-3 seconds, this would remove what little strategic gameplay exists right now and replace it with literally who can press buttons faster.

haaaaaaalpSep 16, 20181 votes

Not sure about a summoner spell because it shouldn't really be available earlygame. However, I don't see why it couldn't be added as an item like refresher orb. Would make for a good lategame power spike item if the balance team ever lets the meta go back to longer games.

InfernapeSep 16, 20181 votes

LeBlanc wouldn't need her ult. She could Q, rewind, Q then R you to death.

CochoSep 16, 20181 votes

cc chain by yourself lol

KatarinintSep 16, 20181 votes

It’s already on the game katarina mains all cackle loudly Its called. Katarinas passive, Voracity.

BonipherusSep 16, 20181 votes

Alistar shame you wanted to play the game

ltmetalSep 16, 20181 votes

https://goo.gl/images/wuAmYC Refresher Orb, an Item from DOTA2.

d0riyahSep 16, 20181 votes

TwistedFate laughs in permastun Udyr laughs in thousand damage triple q Fiddlesticks laughs in permafear

Anu3isIISep 16, 20181 votes

I personally don't want to see it because of these champs Leblanc Morgana Riven Fiddlesticks Blitzcrank Leona TahmKench Zoe .

NyarlathοtepSep 16, 20181 votes

It would literally break the game.

FOR JUSTICESep 16, 20181 votes

true, but ya got to admit it would kinda be an interesting idea. upvoting anyways XD

Vlada CutSep 16, 20181 votes

Would make AA reset based abilities too broken. Camille Vayne Skarner

Bμbble ButtSep 16, 20181 votes

You're all actually insane. The main reason league is in trouble atm is because alot of champs have overloaded kits and low cooldowns.

Glory97Sep 16, 20181 votes

With this summoner ingame literally everyone except the jungler would run this new summoner + flash. If riot implemented such a summoner the whole game has to be rebalancend arround this summoner spell- because some champions are better at using it than others... and before the rebalancing of every champion is done the game would be in an unplayable state- and I guess at least 70% of the playerbase would quit the game. People are complaining already about how fizz or camille are to mobile, now imagine them using their movement abilities twice, or picking lb/talon for a guaranteed first blood the moment you hit level 2.

Daddy AntsSep 16, 20181 votes

Absolutely not!

There are SO many champions who will be absolutely busted with a mechanic like this existing in the game

Here's a few examples -

Ahri : Charm -> Rewind -> Charm = You are CC'd for a good 4 seconds.

Blitzcrank : Q -> E -> Rewind -> E = Good luck playing the game!

Maokai : W -> Rewind -> W = Good luck playing the game!

Morgana : Q -> Rewind -> Q = Oh look I just aged 20 years!

Leona : E -> Q -> Rewind -> Q = Good luck playing the game!

Fiddlesticks : Q -> Rewind -> Q = LOL FEARED FOR 5+ SECONDS.

Teemo : Q -> Rewind -> Q = Good luck playing the game!

Nocturne : E -> Wait til fear procs -> Rewind -> E again = 4.5 seconds of fear. (Not like this champion has any counterplay atm, lets not make him more oppressive please)

FOR JUSTICESep 16, 20181 votes

Fizz Rakan Shaco Khazix

or any jungler with a decent gapcloser

EndlessSorcererSep 16, 20181 votes

Some champions would synergize with it far too well, get nerfed into oblivion, forced to depend upon the Summoner Spell, and be left to rot after it gets nerfed or removed.

Sire HippingtonSep 16, 20181 votes

I know it'd probably be completely broken

probably? it would be broken on about everything, on some more than on others.

there are reasons it is a thing in HotS but not in LoL a) it's a lvl 20 talent, it only comes online in the endgame, compareable to beeing lvl 18 with fullgear in lol, and it has to compete with other lvl 20 talents that are just as strong b) Hots has slower paced fights, the impact of a double rotation is not as devastateing as in lol, and mana is more limited, on anumb for example, if you go for the reset, you need to end the fight quickly or you run oom. C) only specific heroes have acces to it