Can we please look harder at Illaoi?

ll League God ll·Feb 15, 2016·9 votes·1,026 views

I love this champion and her concept... but im tired of getting smoked 1v1, or smoking 3 people 1v3 with her if the situation is right.

She is so hyper dependant on her passive which requires so much waisting time to set up, and all it takes is someone with halfway decent range to snuff out any combos she might be able to pull off..

This champion needs a serious looking into because once you get out of wood division matches, she becomes literally irrelivant because anyone who knows how to right click can dodge almost all of her damage

12 Comments

La BarbotteFeb 16, 20163 votes

couldnt do it, too many tentacles

Illâoi Evê SiônFeb 15, 20161 votes

They should change her Q in some way to make it different from her passive. Of course, it can be targeted independantly (etc. etc.) but a small slow or Armor shred (alongside a damage reduction on her tentacles) might be nice to give it more worth.

Swae7Feb 15, 20161 votes

i thought maybe illao's allies could spawn tentacles, and she would make a pact kind of like kallista. Her damage could be nerved a bit but her aa should be increased a bit. UPVOTE IF YOU THINK THIS IS A COOL IDEA...

ll League God llFeb 15, 20161 votes

The 2 concepts ive been throwing around as decent fixes is giving her passive tentacles 3 hits of life instead of 2 much like zyras.

That would allow a little more time to spawn another

the other idea is to make them spawn more frequently... at level 18 waiting 12 seconds between tentacles is just wayy to long

league of legends is a completely active and reactive game

most major things happen within a 6 second gap leaving illaoi just out in the cold unless she can hammer in a nice ult and pray she doesnt get killed between her ult hitting and her tentacles hitting the enemys.

VarnocFeb 16, 20161 votes

The 2 concepts I've been throwing around as decent fixes is giving her passive tentacles 3 hits of life instead of 2, much like Zyra's plants.

I'd be on board with this totally with the condition that Melee champions would kill it in two strikes, as they do currently, while ranged opponents would kill them in the three.

the other idea is to make them spawn more frequently... at level 18 waiting 12 seconds between tentacles is just wayy to long

Once again I completely agree. I feel that hitting someone with a Tentacle should reduce the cooldown of her passive, though that's me.

Related to this, it would be interesting if Illaoi could "store" tentacle spawns if she's around an active one for long enough (or in the fountain where she can't spawn them), though I can see some potential for abuse when she snowballs in lane, so tuning it to allow her to store any/more tentacles later in the game may be in order with this, though I honestly don't see it working out well, so I understand reservation about it.

WadeWilson1337Feb 16, 20161 votes

Shes being buffed next patch

ll League God llFeb 16, 20161 votes

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Shes being buffed next patch

She doesnt need a numbers buff, she needs a mechanics buffs. Her ratios honestly are some of the highest in the game, but the utility around how she works is severely flawed.

I like the idea stated by VARNOC about melee still being able to kill tentacles in 2 hits while ranged takes 3, i think that is completely fair.

I also love the idea stated by VARNOC about allowing illaoi to store 1 extra tentacle when she is near ones already out.

WadeWilson1337Feb 16, 20161 votes

Shes a lanebully juggernaut...her intent of design makes her the way she is. If you make her stronger in teamfights, she will be op because she is basically ungankable by most top lane matchups and just destroys anything that is dumb enough to sit there and melee her.

ll League God llFeb 16, 20161 votes

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Shes a lanebully juggernaut...her intent of design makes her the way she is. If you make her stronger in teamfights, she will be op because she is basically ungankable by most top lane matchups and just destroys anything that is dumb enough to sit there and melee her.

I think you are missing what we are talking about here. Being a lane bully is 1 thing, being non existant in team fights is another.

I personally would rather see her ratios drop by a larger % just to make her viable in fights.

As far as a lane bully? uhhh maybe against melee? some melee at that?

Her Q - easily dodged Her E- easily dodged Her tentacles - easily dodged Her W - useless unless she has tentacles close enough to hit her target, and even then without iceborn people just walk away Her ult can set up some godly plays, but its rarely the case

The meta seems to be ADCs top outside of competative play, you see non stop ranged champs top.

A true lane bully is someone like renekton who has insane sustain, great get in - poke - get out, and good forms of CC

If you are truely comparing illaoi on that level than you have simply never played her

She basically sits back and idoly defends her turret, and farms when an enemy is dumb enough to push the lane, farming with her Q is terrible because she ends up pushing out leaving her wide open to ganks

and ungankable? you gotta be kidding me, she has no CC, no escape mechanisms... she is literally the defenition of an ALL-IN champion except the fact that she cant go all in without tentacles near her

Please learn what you are speaking on before you make your assumptions

WadeWilson1337Feb 17, 20161 votes

You cant have your cake and eat it to. Of course she gets countered by stuff like Quinn, Quinn is a counter to champions like Illaoi. You pick illaoi into stuff like Irelia and Riven, she has her purposes like Darius. She has massive sustain and if you get ganked by level 6, you are quite possibly the best 1v2 champion in the entire game if they are both melee. Please. dont make assumptions when you dont know what you are talking about, Salt Lord.

ll League God llFeb 17, 20161 votes

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You cant have your cake and eat it to. Of course she gets countered by stuff like Quinn, Quinn is a counter to champions like Illaoi. You pick illaoi into stuff like Irelia and Riven, she has her purposes like Darius. She has massive sustain and if you get ganked by level 6, you are quite possibly the best 1v2 champion in the entire game if they are both melee. Please. dont make assumptions when you dont know what you are talking about, Salt Lord.

go pick illaoi into darius and tell me just how well that works out for you, it wont go pick illaoi into riven, again tell me just how well that works out for you

im sorry that you dont grasp the concept of not standing still completely counters illaois kit

and the insult is super childish. Act youre age

WadeWilson1337Feb 17, 20161 votes

"Please learn what you are speaking on before you make your assumptions" was the comment that made me respond that way. First off, your grammar is atrocious. Second off, i know quite well what im talking about. Have you considered maybe you just kinda suck at Illaoi? Its a honest to god possibility. I dont think shes very good, but thats because she cant teamfight and she gets kited in a mobile meta. If you ever mention someones age in an argument over the internet...you are indeed a Salt Lord.