Everyone is tired of YI

ll League God ll··198 votes·7,701 views

Everyone is tired of playing with a devourer / guinsoos yi on their team

Everyone is tired of playing against a devourer / guinsoos yi

Even playing as yi isnt satisfying at all unless you are a child who likes free wins with minimal effort

182 Comments

Dreadlocks49 votes

I'm tired of item 3931

LOL Spammer18 votes

What about item 3932? Racist.

Virgin Ray30 votes

item 3930 Racial equality people.

GrReaper968 votes

insert sated poachers knife pic

RoodToob8 votes

And Sated Rangers Traiblaizers

Blue Moon Wolf1 votes

I'm curious to see how many people actually use item 3711. I know I find it worse compared to item 3715 and item 3706 that let me smite enemy champs, but I'm no jungler and wouldn't know if junglers actually prefer the extra vision or not.

Xilixer2 votes

it really depends. if you have great communication between your teammates the item 3711 can work wonders especially if you want full map vision of the enemy jungle or yours.

Lao Fu the Tiger14 votes

Why do you feel the need to generalise an entire group of players based on a personal opinion? Not everyone plays Yi because he's OP; some of us legitimately enjoy his play style and mechanics, and that is our opinion.

It's one thing to be frustrated with a certain champion, but trying to support your opinion with comments such as "he isn't even satisfying" and "only children who like free wins play him" is a) incorrect, b) marginalizing, and c) rude.

I personally hate playing against Tryndamere, Anivia, and Leblanc (Although LB isn't that awful with my play style), but I would never stoop to the point where I generalise or criticise the players themselves for playing a champion they enjoy. I may make a comment jokingly in game like, "that's what you get for playing the cheese lord," but I never advocate for stereotyping players as you've done here.

Slamurai Jack12 votes

53% winrate = free win Lol.

ll League God ll25 votes

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53% winrate = free win Lol.

you do realise that every game has 5 winners and 5 losers right? just because shitty people pick a champ and think they can steam roll doesnt make someone NOT op... stat whores at their finest

PROJECT Katarìna2 votes

yeah it just makes them mechanically skilled.

Xsoteric Ronin 11 votes

... Im appalled but not really surprised at the number of up-votes this thing has.

Excalibait10 votes

Everyone wants free wins, no exceptions. You can't tell me you're the only one who thinks: "Hmmm, how can I win this game in the most complicated way possible?"

NAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH, you're more like:

"Yo, let's cheese the crap out of 'em!" - every ranked player ever

...fck Yi tho... [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

ll League God ll6 votes

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Everyone wants free wins, no exceptions. You can't tell me you're the only one who thinks: "Hmmm, how can I win this game in the most complicated way possible?"

NAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH, you're more like:

"Yo, let's cheese the crap out of 'em!" - every ranked player ever

...fck Yi tho... [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

no, i play twitch, elise, kayle, and sometimes tryndamere because they are fun champions with fun mechanics. I never choose a champion who is currently the most op crap for free wins.

League is about fun, if free wins is all you care about, welll.... just pick yi

AlwaysByMySide45 votes

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no, i play twitch, elise, kayle, and sometimes tryndamere because they are fun champions with fun mechanics. I never choose a champion who is currently the most op crap for free wins.

League is about fun, if free wins is all you care about, welll.... just pick yi

Tryndamere is literally the fucking king of cheese. All in at level 2 and sacrifice your sister's virginity to the RNG gods to snowball.

Also, Yi is fun. Running fast is fun. Doing a lot of damage is fun. Q'ing the enemy Syndra's E and killing her is fun. Absorbing Ekko's ult with your W is fun.

Tryndamere by comparison (I play both of these champions by the way) jumps on people and crushes them with his stats. There's a bit less to play around with Tryndamere, with the main skill-related aspect of him being timing your ult properly (beyond basic shit like positioning).

HandheldBrandon14 votes

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Tryndamere is literally the fucking king of cheese. All in at level 2 and sacrifice your sister's virginity to the RNG gods to snowball.

Also, Yi is fun. Running fast is fun. Doing a lot of damage is fun. Q'ing the enemy Syndra's E and killing her is fun. Absorbing Ekko's ult with your W is fun.

Tryndamere by comparison (I play both of these champions by the way) jumps on people and crushes them with his blessed luck of the RNG gods. There's a bit less to play around with Tryndamere, with the main skill-related aspect of him being timing your ult properly (beyond basic shit like positioning).

FTFY

Apocalypsic12 votes

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no, i play twitch, elise, kayle, and sometimes tryndamere because they are fun champions with fun mechanics. I never choose a champion who is currently the most op crap for free wins.

League is about fun, if free wins is all you care about, welll.... just pick yi

I just want to say.

Kayle is horrid cancer to lane against as a melee in the current meta , Fervor and on hit stacking too stronk

Also Kayle abuses sated guinsoos just as hard or harder than yi...

Also Trynd does too if he goes jungle

also Twitch abuses sated with bork if in the jungle

... Got no problems with Elise <3 (although echos is still a little over tuned)

La Barbotte9 votes

what if i have funa t other peoples expense ? thats why i 4 man premad ranked with teams liek this Lulu MasterYi Lux Ezreal Soraka

La Barbotte14 votes

much spelling, very grammar

Clockwork Mouse9 votes

The gameplay board is tired of every champion and every item in the game at all times.

lnstantCoffee4 votes

I don't remember seeing anyone saying Yorick or item 3056 are overpowered, maybe the other way around.

Clockwork Mouse3 votes

He is getting a rework, give it time.

Blackstone017 votes

To be fair people did used to hate hard on yorick for awhile. The joke "Yorick walked into a bar. There was no counter." exists for a reason. Now, not so much.

Serika Zero9 votes

Yi pick rate: 13% Lee Sin pick rate: 20%

Sry, we are tired of Lee, not of Yi.

TheImpLord4 votes

Why not both?

Supreme Senpai693 votes

Lee Sin can't 1v5 the enemy team and win. Lee Sin is annoying, Master Yi is OP. Tired of both, but one is a bigger problem than the other.

Mute Button X 47 votes

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Everyone is tired of playing with a devourer / guinsoos yi on their team

Everyone is tired of playing against a devourer / guinsoos yi

Even playing as yi isnt satisfying at all unless you are a child who likes free wins with minimal effort

I used Master Yi to get from Bronze 4 to Silver 3 so far this season. And i plan to use him to get through Gold also. Lower elo requires minimal mechanics, and high situational awareness. But choosing a champ with little mechanics, you can expound on your situational mechanics and overtake your opponents who are trying to play more complex champions, who require more mechanical skills to play effectively.

To put it simple, he absolutely wrecks low elo players.

But do not get me wrong - Yi is good in Diamond level if played correctly. He can dodge any ability in the game, channel to reduce incoming damage by 50% or more - he has much usefulness. And he is incredibly easily countered. However, players in lower elo do not know how to deal with Yi. A full build Yi vs full build Vayne..... The Yi buys red trinket...... Alpha+1 auto kills Vayne.. Before she can even react. OP huh?

I was Heimer top the other day and there was a fed Yi on the enemy team. He Ulted at me and Alpha Striked when he got into range. Makes sense right? WRONG. Rediculous idea. I dropped a stun grenade on him and timed so he did not have time to get a single auto off on me. Ulted my hextech rockets and blew him to pieces. After that, he learned not to try and 1v1 me... We ended up winning that game...

Saying 'Yi is freelo' is a troll term, and not a serious term that anyone should use when actually discussing if Yi is overpowered or not. Yi can be absolutely shut down in a team fight if anyone has enough common knowledge of the game to know how to deal with him. However, he does require minimal mechanics- AND THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT.. League needs champs with low mechanics, and champs with high mechanics. You don't expect newbies to be performing insec-kicks or Bouncing shadow-to-shadow do you?

Yi is fine. He is not over-nor under-powered. Simply put, he needs the damage output he has to excel in team fights, because if anyone understands that a single decent stun can demolish him..... He is done for.

DarkRitual3 votes

Fog of War is Yi's best friend. That and long open lanes.

HandheldBrandon6 votes

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** I was Heimer top the other day and there was a fed Yi on the enemy team. He Ulted at me and Alpha Striked when he got into range. **Makes sense right? WRONG. Rediculous idea. I dropped a stun grenade on him and timed so he did not have time to get a single auto off on me. Ulted my hextech rockets and blew him to pieces. After that, he learned not to try and 1v1 me... We ended up winning that game...

No decent Yi would ever Alpha strike into a heimer because its much easy to walk up to him and shred him instantly and if you even try and throw a grenade a simple alpha strike will undo that timing of yours. Not too mention with Guinsoos hes probably melting you at the same time hes melting your turrets. I am sorry but whatever Yi you played against was definitely not even a basic level Yi.

Mute Button X 41 votes

Pretty much, the way i would have been taken out is by the Yi getting on me, and Alpha to dodge the grenade at point-blank range. It will take the grenage about .2 seconds to be cast and land at point-blank range. So there is your window to Alpha and dodge it.

Argue it if you want, but most unranked-Gold players may miss that .2 second window more often than you think, sir.

SICKNÈSS2 votes

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Pretty much, the way i would have been taken out is by the Yi getting on me, and Alpha to dodge the grenade at point-blank range. It will take the grenage about .2 seconds to be cast and land at point-blank range. So there is your window to Alpha and dodge it.

Argue it if you want, but most unranked-Gold players may miss that .2 second window more often than you think, sir.

BS. I've seen gold players do combos Faker has a difficulty performing. And yes, I'm exaggerating, but my point stands - Mains can be mechanical gods on a specific champ, no matter the elo.

lnstantCoffee4 votes

While I do agree that league does need some low mechanically complicated champions, I still think that champions that are mechanically complicated should be stronger than them if played correctly, since a Yi can just buy 2 damage items, then build tank items and QSS and become a monster. Many people complain about Yi, even in higher elos. You can't say he doesn't need nerfs. Either to him or to Devourer/Rageblade.

Sona Ping5 votes

"I still think that champions that are mechanically complicated should be stronger than them if played correctly"

Setting aside the fact that League doesn't have complicated characters, let's look at this for a moment.

Imagine if we did have a champion who was more complicated and was given just flat-out more power, an unambiguous level of strength over other champions because of it...

Do you really want to play against a champion who is simply stronger than yours before the game even begins? Do you want to play a match where what you do doesn't matter to whether or not you win but is instead dependent on whether or not the other guy screws up? Do you really, really want a champion who if the other guy gets in a bit of practice on him, you 100% cannot win?

There are good reasons why characters in any balanced game are not given higher power budgets than other characters.

YossarianSensei4 votes

Ok but consider the alternative:

Why ever bother playing a relatively challenging champion when the vast majority of players are spamming faceroll champs that are just as strong?

RIght now playing LoL is a delicate balance between wanting to win and wanting to have fun.

iainB856 votes

Everyone is tired of devourer / rageblade in general.

Yi is one of the biggest offenders but he isn't the problem. Jax KogMaw and XinZhao are not anymore fun to play against with these items.

Mistikal6 votes

I truly believe if they removed his true damage from his e he would be in a pretty balanced spot.

ChrisThePleb3 votes

This. SO hard. If they removed true damage from the entire game, everything would be better. I remember Riot mentioning they wanted to remove "uncounterable mechanics", yet they keep the mechanics that's the most toxic. The one thing that no matter what you do, you cannot defend against it.

Mistikal4 votes

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The one thing that no matter what you do, you cannot defend against it.

That's not entirely true to be fair. To counter true damage you stack health.

Supreme Senpai692 votes

Velkoz is probably the one champion that makes true damage work

bill845 votes

The biggest reason that I hat yi: When I play galio, he can 100-0 me in the two seconds while i am in ult with shield up and 200+ resistances before shield. He does this with at least 3 tank items. Someone tell me that this is not bullshit.

Sohleks4 votes

Ya.

Guinsoos has little to do with it tho tbh. You can easily put bork in its spot. It's entirely devourer and bruiser itemization. OH. And fervor. 118 dmg per auto at 18, or half that at level 9 (a BF sword and a half, in other words 2k gold, lol...)

Xenos111115 votes

Yeah, a lot of people seem to obsess over item 3931 and forget about Yi's disgusting synergy with FoB, being able to proc it twice per auto attack. Fully stacked at level 18 that's 224 extra physical damage each AA, which is comparable to 5 BF Swords.

YossarianSensei4 votes

Even playing as yi isnt satisfying at all unless you are a child who likes free wins with minimal effort

Pretty sure that's League's target demographic

warpenguin5553 votes

This. i lagged through a teamfight as sated brusier yi and got still got a triple

Wyrmblade3 votes

There's at least one guy out there who has an incredibly specific fetish for getting killed by master yi.

theonlyaustin2 votes

If you can shut down yi and prevent him from getting his sated devourer and BoRK then he doesn't do anything other than dive in and get blasted. Now if you can't do this and he gets these items along with Guinsoos deadman plate and Spirit Visage, then God have mercy on your soul

OnlyMnM1 votes

Honestly if you see them with a Yi play Rammus or Udyr or MonkeyKing . If you haven't gotten the message yet play champions with escapes or movement speed.

marco3612315 votes

i played against a rammus yesterday as yi. My build: item 3931 item 3124 item 3742 item 3053 item 3006 item 3022 . I used the red smite and he killed himself by taunting me. Rammus only counters un-tanky yi.

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