Why is Shaco's TOTAL AD scaling over all abilities 0.75?

Unreformed Shaco··2 votes·630 views

When every other %%%% has high scaling on all abilities?

"uh cause shaco E does % missing health, that's why is gets a 0.75AD ratio"

Meanwhile Lee Fucking Sin gets %90 on both parts of his Q despite having the same %, and a total combined ratio of 4.8AD.

Which one of the balance team was kidnapped by a clown?

Was it you Meddler?

19 Comments

Vęrtęx1 votes

I'm not quite sure what you are arguing for. Shaco is in a great spot. Top 5 jungler. I just played him the other day and it was pretty "brain dead".

Grimspeake3 votes

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I'm not quite sure what you are arguing for. Shaco is in a great spot. Top 5 jungler. I just played him the other day and it was pretty "brain dead".

Rofl shaco is definately not top 5.

Vęrtęx2 votes

4th winrate amongst junglers rofl

Unreformed Shaco1 votes

In long games where he can reach full build yes.

Early games he has less damage in his kit than a support.

Vęrtęx1 votes

Well his ganks are very strong due to q into box while enemy laner has no clue what is about to happen. For example if you paired that with a pantheon it's a kill.

Vęrtęx1 votes

So I'm guessing riot said something has to give due to that

Unreformed Shaco1 votes

So you're now relying entirely on allies.

Pretty sure Zac can do the same. Though Zac has base damage on his skills.

Same with Eve.

His boxes without the CC from an ally though, you literally see him place it and just walk around it.

Vęrtęx1 votes

Can't you place a box and its stealthed if you are?

Unreformed Shaco1 votes

Nope. Box is cast as usual. Shaco remains in stealth and IIRC his outline is shimmered.

So his target sees the box, waits two seconds, let's the box fear minions and then walks through it unscathed.

Vęrtęx1 votes

I just read the changes on him and I got that part confused lol but reading through those changes would frustrate you shaco mains I'm sure but he was a pretty frustrating champion because he could end the game by 10 mins. It wasn't fun losing all health from an almost impossible gank to detect that early.

PhDs Nuts1 votes

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I just read the changes on him and I got that part confused lol but reading through those changes would frustrate you shaco mains I'm sure but he was a pretty frustrating champion because he could end the game by 10 mins. It wasn't fun losing all health from an almost impossible gank to detect that early.

OP is unranked with 3 games this season, none of them Shaco. 29k total Shaco mastery points.

Unreformed Shaco1 votes

This is 100% my main account.

I have only played 3 games of Shaco in my life. Seems legitimate.

Unreformed Shaco1 votes

The upcoming changes fuck his early clear and make him deal less damage early, but buff his late game, at the cost of objective security.

Wards work wonders. He isn't Eve. He isn't permanently stealthed. Early ranks he can't even make it from bush > mid lane in stealth, so if you ward, you can see him.

PermabannedGaren1 votes

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When every other %%%% has high scaling on all abilities?

"uh cause shaco E does % missing health, that's why is gets a 0.75AD ratio"

Meanwhile Lee Fucking Sin gets %90 on both parts of his Q despite having the same %, and a total combined ratio of 4.8AD.

Which one of the balance team was kidnapped by a clown?

Was it you Meddler?

Because he's an auto attack-based champion, one who can make a clone that has literally no damage drop-off compared to the original, doubling his damage when it is activiated. Lee Sin, by comparison, does almost all of his damage with abilities, and his only steroid is frankly laughable and only really good for helping him clear.

Also, are you asking for Shaco buffs?

Unreformed Shaco1 votes

The clone does 75% of his damage.

"Protection Hallucination's attacks deal 75% damage to units (reduced to 26.5% against structures)"

The clone also takes 50% more, and is very easy to tell apart.

Yi and Trynd are both auto based champs, but they get steroids.

PermabannedGaren1 votes

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The clone does 75% of his damage.

"Protection Hallucination's attacks deal 75% damage to units (reduced to 26.5% against structures)"

The clone also takes 50% more, and is very easy to tell apart.

Hey thanks, I didn't catch that because it was put in a separate place from the modifier to its damage taken.

That's still a 75% increase in Shaco's damage, and though it takes more damage it is very possible to kill an ADC before it dies. That it provides him actual team fight CC when it dies is just a bonus.

No but, are you asking for buffs? You didn't answer the question. Because despite your whining my friend, Shaco is very viable right now.

Unreformed Shaco1 votes

He really isn't.

The cast time gives your target plenty of time to move away/team to turn if you ult for damage.

His ult is almost exclusively used as a iframe, and the damage is just a bonus. As for the minibox or even regular box, I've played him since early season 3 and I would honestly say it dies before entering stealth maybe 40-50% of the time, and then probably 30% of the time it does fear, it fears minions.

Any half decent jungler just smites one minibox.

There is a reason he is never seen in proplay. Basic champ knowledge and organization stomps him, because his kit is empty.

Grimspeake1 votes

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Hey thanks, I didn't catch that because it was put in a separate place from the modifier to its damage taken.

That's still a 75% increase in Shaco's damage, and though it takes more damage it is very possible to kill an ADC before it dies. That it provides him actual team fight CC when it dies is just a bonus.

No but, are you asking for buffs? You didn't answer the question. Because despite your whining my friend, Shaco is very viable right now.

Shaco is a shit champ right now if u pick him i think ur trolling

Calabok1 votes

that clown is fine. he offs squishies like no tomorrow.

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