Give Wukong this QoL change, @Riot.

Wukong Airways·Sep 9, 2018·20 votes·8,107 views

We understand you don't like Wukong as a "burst" champion. Yet he has no sustain to act like a "bruiser", nor enough tankiness to "Dive" and survive, not even reliable consistent "Crowd Control" to build him a bit tankier to use it consistently. So I'd like to know exactly what do you want Wukong to work as?

All I want from you is to:-

Allow Wukong to apply his [Q] before he lands his [E].

Example: if I press [Q] and dash to an enemy using [E], I want the [Q] to land before the [E] so the armor reduction debuff applies, so that:-

My [E] and [R] deal more damage since the champion works as an AD caster My Auto-Attacks deal more damage and I use the full duration of Attack speed buff (from the [E]) uninterruptedly when dueling

This sounds not much change, or no change at all to [Some people since they like to follow a certain combo like (E > AA > Q), but this would really add a bit more damage to his combo Or if you wanna duel early game it would make you a bit stronger in dueling since you apply the [Q] first and not last.

19 Comments

The Bad TouchSep 9, 201811 votes

No leave Wu where he is for the rest of the season. Sick of Wu one shots the first half of this season.

ValiantKillerSep 9, 201811 votes

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No leave Wu where he is for the rest of the season. Sick of Wu one shots the first half of this season.

Say the Mf main, the one of the most busted champions in game right now and that is loved untouched by riot.

The Bad TouchSep 9, 20183 votes

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Say the Mf main, the one of the most busted champions in game right now and that is loved untouched by riot.

I don't "main" anything.

A grand total of 14% of my games are on MF because I usually pick her if I get ADC. I generally queue as Fill. The other top picks atm are all stuff I don't play such as Jhin, Kaisa, Varus. I'd much prefer to see MF nerfed so I can get back to playing Sivir.... or EZ buffed so he was worth playing again.

0 HogapuSep 9, 201811 votes

"quality of life change" when this is straight up a buff, not making Wukong more interessant to play as or against. In fact it would remove his auto attack reset, which is one of the only things that adds skill to wukong (and this is not even that hard.)

His armor reduction could be swapped to his E, but then again his Q would be worthless.

Wukong AirwaysSep 9, 20182 votes

His "AA reset" will still be there, but it will vary based on playstyle, it will only [Q] apply first if you press it pre dashing [E], but if u want the normal combo [E]-AA-[Q] then u can normally do it

VelvetCrotchSep 9, 20183 votes

I personally hate wukong. I tend to play toplane and most time I shut on wu as Darius. Then he roams gets kills by oneshotting squishies and comes fat as fuck on my lane. If wu gets fed he is one of the most annoying champs to play against his dash - q and ult. disgusting.

His ult is btw very strong in team fights even he dies by doing it (a fed with doesn’t care)

I perma banned this champs so often this year till his nerfs he should stay untouched till he gets either a rework or an item nerf aka removing duskblade

Sharpest glassesSep 9, 20181 votes

Then he roams gets kills by oneshotting squishies and comes fat as fuck on my lane.

Its not champion fault if your mates can't react to ping and are too retarded to look the map. Wukong need to be really, really fed to stand to Darius.

Really complaining about a trash tier champs... as DArius, Illaoi, Ornn player ?[sg-miss-fortune]

His ult is btw very strong in team fights even he dies by doing it (a fed with doesn’t care)

Glad he has some force... Wtf is your statement. But his ult is just a weaker version of malphite.

Happy Love PileSep 10, 20181 votes

Except malph can't use his ulti out of stealth

Sharpest glassesSep 10, 20181 votes

Yeah and wukong isnt Tanky, lose every matchup...

kargishSep 9, 20182 votes

That sounds like a copy+paste Rengar with the stealth being a basic ability and no warning.

AK Mr BlondeSep 9, 20182 votes

These nerfs pissed me off as a wukong main. ive been waiting for a long time for wukong to become strong, Wukong becomes strong, not the strongest, but pretty strong, for a couple months and gets nerfed hard right away. There are still multiple champs that still one shot and have a way more useful kit, i feel like if you can survive wukongs terrible early game then maybe you deserve to do some serious damage in the late game.

VoraciousXSep 9, 20185 votes

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These nerfs pissed me off as a wukong main. ive been waiting for a long time for wukong to become strong, Wukong becomes strong, not the strongest, but pretty strong, for a couple months and gets nerfed hard right away. There are still multiple champs that still one shot and have a way more useful kit, i feel like if you can survive wukongs terrible early game then maybe you deserve to do some serious damage in the late game.

When Wukong is strong, he's built as an assassin and one shots people, but still has his game changing ultimate with a huge AOE CC on top of it. No assassin has that much CC packed into their kit with that much guaranteed burst.

To OP, this would just buff assassin Wukong more. He needs more defensive buffs instead of offensive buffs. His passive should be 1/2/3+5% of his bonus defenses. His Q should steal armor instead of shred it, and the armor theft should (maybe) be less(maybe 5/10/13/16/20). This would force Wukong to want to target the tank with his combo, then ult the enemy team. He'd be tankier to get off his ultimate for longer, and the more defenses he bought the more his passive gave him. He'd also no longer be as much of an assassin as he'd want to be focusing the tank with his core combo.

The Bad TouchSep 10, 20181 votes

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These nerfs pissed me off as a wukong main. ive been waiting for a long time for wukong to become strong, Wukong becomes strong, not the strongest, but pretty strong, for a couple months and gets nerfed hard right away. There are still multiple champs that still one shot and have a way more useful kit, i feel like if you can survive wukongs terrible early game then maybe you deserve to do some serious damage in the late game.

Ummm Wukong WAS one of the strongest champ for almost 3 months running. He had the one of the highest win rate in LoL for 1/4 of this season... ** The sad part about this is Wukong STILL ranked 39/141 on win rate at all elo's and 52/141 in plat+.**

Wukong mains just want the guy to be stupid OP like he was for most of the season.

He's still in the top 1/3 of all champs.... http://na.op.gg/statistics/champion/

Also he has the second highest win rate Top lane (for all those people QQ'ing about Darius/Orrn/Urgot/Ect..... but less than a 1% pick rate. Hmmmmm I wonder why that is? I know all..... all the FOTM Wukong "mains" that never played the champ before this season jumped to a new champ the second he got nerfed. Yet all the real Wukong mains continue to play him and do very well with him. http://na.op.gg/champion/monkeyking/statistics/top

Wukong has only been slightly below after for ONE patch all season. He's been strong or very strong at all other points. http://na.op.gg/champion/monkeyking/statistics/top/trend

And FYI people only THINK Darius is good.. in reality he's over banned and does rather poorly. 7th most banned champ is LoL is C- tier at best. He is in the bottom 20% of top laners.... and is played nowhere else. http://na.op.gg/champion/darius/statistics/top/trend

Oh look... actual facts.

MankeyMadnessSep 9, 20182 votes

I'd rather my monkeyboy lose the armor shred entirely as it only benefits electrocute. In return revert the Q ratio removal and the last two patches' E nerfs (CD and damage)

The combination of Sudden Impact and Electrocute both losing half their damage output meant WKs one shots became just trading damage while burning his escape if W was used. He didn't need Q gutted ON TOP OF THAT and it shows in how hard the nerfs hit, yet we didn't get a hotfix because .... uh, cant have champion diversity in top lane and God forbid Irelia mid has counter picks.

Wukong was NEVER broken. Electrocute was and having an armor shred + auto reset to instantly apply it was too much. Remove the shred and revert the nerfs.

CarnicoreSep 9, 20181 votes

I think this would have animation issues.

the shushiSep 10, 20181 votes

Put the armor reduction on his e [sg-ahri-2]

HalcyonDwellerSep 10, 20181 votes

And the attack speed on his Q!

SilverjustSep 10, 20181 votes

"quality of life change" this is a buff

PhoneixflareSep 10, 20181 votes

that's actually a HUGE buff. I disagree and I used to main wukong. makes him too strong. aa->q->e->aa->tiamat is your bread and butter almost untradeable combo and making it stronger by removing some of those parts seems unfair to opponents.