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In the last few months, Lee Sin's entire Kit was buffed because of an indirect nerf.

Wukong Airways··17 votes·2,442 views

I'll just list the patches, buffs, and reasons why he "needed" them according to Riot's point of view.

v8.6 Passive - Flurry FIRST ATTACK ENERGY RETURN : [20] ⇒ 20/25/30 (at levels 1/7/13) SECOND ATTACK ENERGY RETURN : [10] ⇒ 10/12.5/15 (at levels 1/7/13)

Resonating Strike.Q - Resonating Strike RANGE : [1100] ⇒ 1200

Dragon's Rage.R - Dragon's Rage BASE DAMAGE : [150/300/450] ⇒ 150/375/600

Reason: Losing Tracker's Knife has taken away some of the consistency of Lee Sin's playmaking potential. We're looking to put some of that back into his kit.

v8.11 Passive - Flurry ENERGY RESTORED ON FIRST HIT : [20/25/30] ⇒ 20/30/40 ENERGY RESTORED ON SECOND HIT : [10/12.5/15] ⇒ 10/15/20

Reason: Recent changes to Warding Trinket have left Lee Sin with fewer playmaking opportunities. Making sure he benefits fully from cooldown reduction should give him more to do with his baseline kit, and we also want to make sure he has more access to the energy needed to do so.

v8.12

**W - Safeguard / Iron Will ** COOLDOWN : [14] ⇒ 12 seconds Tempest. E - Tempest BASE DAMAGE : [70/105/140/175/210] ⇒ 80/120/160/200/240

Reason:Last patch's buffs didn't go far enough in bringing Lee back **up **from the Warding Totem changes, so we're giving him a few more buffs.

As you can see, The balance team won't stop until Lee Sin is brought back {up} to where he belongs, the godtier junglers,

Maybe my point of view is wrong, but why losing a "vision" item lead to buffing a 15% pick ratio champ's entire kit? oh he's sitting on 48% win ratio which used to be considered balanced 2-3 seasons ago compared to his pick ratio and you want him to go at least 50%? Yeah that makes sense, mb

Let's keep MonkeyKing passiveless and in the gutter for another 3 years while we keep buffing Lee Sin because {Changes to Warding Trinket have left Lee Sin with fewer playmaking opportunities}.

21 Comments

Who Fed Ru23 votes

Can't believe you actually just called MonkeyKing weak and LeeSin strong lmao

http://euw.op.gg/statistics/champion/

GripaAviara14 votes

Me too, as a wukong abuser myself wu is insanely strong. People just play him tanky wrongly

Wukong Airways2 votes

Gotta love people excluding Pick ratio out of everything.

Eedat15 votes

I'm a Wukong OTP. Wukong is not weak. Not even close.

Who Fed Ru16 votes

Really?

Wu has 7.61% pr with 53.72% wr. Lee has 13.24% pr with 46.87% wr.

I get that a much higher pickrate usually lowers the winrate slightly. But the winrate difference is even greater than the pickrate difference

So get your biased bs out here.

Daddy Ants1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Who Fed Ru,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=e8TeLxUr,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-06-14T14:41:54.909+0000)

Can't believe you actually just called MonkeyKing weak and LeeSin strong lmao

http://euw.op.gg/statistics/champion/

Wukong isn't weak.

LOL

Lee has a skin coming, no wonder he's getting buffed constantly.

Gotta sell dat skin yo.

Who Fed Ru1 votes

Well he isn't?

Krully13 votes

fuck assassin wukong

Killer of Night94 votes

I don't know if the ward nerf was necessary.. But they could just give to lee sin a passive that if he bought a jungler item he could get a 'ward' that provide no vision. It work like tracker but it won't give vision.

Poske1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Killer of Night9,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=e8TeLxUr,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-06-14T14:44:09.124+0000)

I don't know if the ward nerf was necessary.. But they could just give to lee sin a passive that if he bought a jungler item he could get a 'ward' that provide no vision. It work like tracker but it won't give vision.

Honestly i would revert all the unecessary buffs (some of which dont do anything anyway like energy changes) For your idea

y0r1ck3 votes

Wait isn't wukong good as an assassin right now? And he definitely has more of a passive than yorick.

Lauchmelder4 votes

He's on the highest winrate list on the lolsumo app. Keeping him passiveless still shouldn't happen.

GripaAviara5 votes

He's not passivless, that passive is good , I don't need to build armor and MR and nullfies a lethality item and boots flat mr pen when 2-3 champs

Eedat2 votes

His passive is dogshit but that missing power comes from the rest of his kit

BadWlan1 votes

YORICKS PASSIVE IS OP IF U HAVE UR GOULS NO ONE CAN FIGHT U

Khristophoros2 votes

Because Riot only cares about high pick rate champs lmao

thanosmystery2 votes

yasuo got buffed on a patch that is full of indirect buffs for him and you complain about lee getting buffed? -_-

Ionian Vulpix1 votes

Get rid of ward hopping, give Lee a free target dash AND a targeted dash on his W. If he uses it without targeting an ally (free target), it has a massive cooldown (say 60 seconds). If he uses it on an ally, it gets a much lower CD and they both get the shield.

Removing of ward hopping would also hurt Jax, but the eggplant needs a rework too.

BadWlan1 votes

Jax does not need wardhop. If u play him top it does not matter and it is the same thing in the jg

SwiftKitten881 votes

the removal of trackers knife was beyond stupid.

lee sin wasn't the only jungler that got hit,, although because of his ward hop he did get hit the hardest.

GreenHydralisk1 votes

Lee Sin is pretty weak right now and he is also high skill champion. His job is dominate early game but there are other champions like xin and graves that can do his job much better .

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